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| YeeeahSteve |
Posted - 05/15/2009 : 22:01:07
So, a few friends and I were having a little chat about firearms while waiting for class to get out. The topic of Glocks came up. Someone said they were looking into a decently priced hand gun. So, I suggested a Glock. The guy sitting next to me says, " You don't want a Glock." "Why do you say that?" I asked curiously. "I just don't think they are very reliable." "Have you ever owned one?" I asked. "No." He said cautiously. "I have literally fired thousands upon thousands of rounds from my 2nd hand heavily used police issued Glock with no failures of any kind...ever." He refused to believe that I had even put that many rounds through any gun let alone without a failure and there was no way of reasoning with him. Class let out before I could tell him about the various people I've known that have tens of thousands of rounds through their Glocks without even cleaning them. Some people are just hard to convince I guess. |
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| tsaka |
Posted - 04/06/2012 : 01:37:08
What about maintenance?
I've been using this grease less spray... It's actually a lubricant and cleaner. It's called safari charlie gun lube, have any of you used it yet?
http://www.superslickstuff.com/lubricant/Safari-Charlie-Gun-Lube.html
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| 1st timer |
Posted - 04/03/2012 : 17:31:48
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The described problem would not indicate a problem with the gun. But I'm very glad they're replacing it if that's what you want. I like my 1911, but I am issued and carry only glocks. I have yet to find a glock that doesn't run flawlessly in the real world.
Yep, everyone finds it hard to believe, but when factory ammo, is getting picked up properly by the breech face, but the round is being fed so far out of alignment it misses the chamber and the nose of the bullet is lodged high and too the left of the chamber mouth, its a gun problem. I have noticed that the Glock fans get very defensive when it comes to the reliability topic. The non-internet reality is that its a manufactured item, and manufactured items are sometimes just built wrong. |
| Tye |
Posted - 04/01/2012 : 15:58:55
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Originally posted by Joshua
I've never shot a Glock that functioned properly. Then again, I've never actually shot any Glock. 
Wow! You better not risk that kind of track record by EVER shooting one!
BR, |
| Joshua |
Posted - 04/01/2012 : 11:32:54
I've never shot a Glock that functioned properly. Then again, I've never actually shot any Glock. |
| Bill Lumberg |
Posted - 03/30/2012 : 05:56:01
The described problem would not indicate a problem with the gun. But I'm very glad they're replacing it if that's what you want. I like my 1911, but I am issued and carry only glocks. I have yet to find a glock that doesn't run flawlessly in the real world. I have found few that functioned at all on the internet. So I don't shoot mine on the internet, and I'm good to go. |
| GlockASA |
Posted - 03/28/2012 : 19:23:20
http://www.volny.cz/glock/html/tested.htm |
| GlockASA |
Posted - 03/28/2012 : 19:15:36
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Originally posted by 1st timer
Better News, the folks at Glock agreed to replace the pistol.
More to follow.
Awesome, congrats. |
| 1st timer |
Posted - 03/28/2012 : 14:31:04
Better News, the folks at Glock agreed to replace the pistol.
More to follow. |
| 1st timer |
Posted - 03/26/2012 : 19:21:52
Bad news today, Glock did not repair my 20SF for the feed problem I described earlier, they fired it 60 times and called it good. Trouble is I have had it work for 70 or so rounds, then a FTF. And sometimes I get two FTFs in one mag of shooting. Can't blame ammo or operator when the pistol ejects great, and cycles enough to pick up the next round. The problem is that the round misses the chamber high and to the left, thats where the nose of the bullet ends up, with the base of the cartridge/case still up against the breech face. Its still under warranty but if the factory won't fix it, that warranty is no help. I even sent them pictures of the jammed up cartridge and how it is lodged. |
| 1st timer |
Posted - 03/04/2012 : 15:39:13
The slide is cycling far enough back to pick up the next round and slam it to the left side of the feed ramp/chamber where it gets hung up. Today it happened 3 times. I have pictures, and sending to Glock Factory. The problem did not exist before the pistol went back to Glock to fix the misfire problem. The good news is, no more misfires, so what ever they did corrected that issue, the bad news is, something else is wrong, causing FFTF. That would be Frequent Failure To Feed! |
| Jim1911a1 |
Posted - 03/04/2012 : 13:12:16
Factory glock gen 4 mag. I have a gen 3 glock 19. I need to do more shooting to be 100% positive but right now I am almost certain its that mag. I shoot with about 6 different mags and like I said Ive never had any issue through 1500+ rounds untill 2 weeks ago. I cant say for sure if Ive shot with the suspect mag many times cause I tend to buy a new magazine frequently and usually only take 2 or 3 mags with me to the range. All the malfunctions happened with the same magazine. Interesting...
then again it also technically could just be the ammo. I shoot the value stuff. So anything thats the cheapest and right now its the federal champion 100 rounds for $21 with tax. |
| RJR573 |
Posted - 03/04/2012 : 09:14:37
Is it a factory Glock mag ? Is the spring weak ? Spring installed the wrong way ?
Normally Glocks work 100% but I guess there can be defects with any item now and then.
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| Jim1911a1 |
Posted - 03/03/2012 : 18:25:00
well im pretty sure its the mag after today. With the first ten rounds in the suspect mag i had a empty casing get caught by the slide and jam my gun. Switched to the other mag i had with me and the other 200 rnds no prob. Out of 1500 rounds I have had 3 of those jams all with that one mag. |
| Nathan |
Posted - 03/02/2012 : 09:53:45
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Originally posted by Jim1911a1
Is there anyway a magazine could cause a failure to eject? Im pretty sure that both my FTE's were from the same mag and I shoot with about 4 or 5 different magazines.
failure to eject from the gun or extract from the chamber? either way, its not likely, especially in a glock. |
| Jim1911a1 |
Posted - 03/01/2012 : 21:55:58
Is there anyway a magazine could cause a failure to eject? Im pretty sure that both my FTE's were from the same mag and I shoot with about 4 or 5 different magazines. |
| Nathan |
Posted - 03/01/2012 : 20:16:35
ive never suffered a glock failure to date of any kind shooting any type of premium ammo. ive also never suffered a failure shooting target ammo, but shoot WWB exclusively for target shooting. |
| Jim1911a1 |
Posted - 03/01/2012 : 19:57:53
Shooting the 9mm value ammo Ive had 2 failure to ejects with my g19 out of about 1000 rounds. Im talking weakest of the weakest ammo. Like federal champion or UMC 115gr. So I consider those 2 fte's ammo related. Otherwise the gun is flawless. |
| Johnde |
Posted - 02/29/2012 : 18:10:34
I load my 9mm pretty hot and there is never a huccup. You can download .40 due to the heavier loading. .40 cal pistols tend to use the same recoil spring as a .40 so there's never a problem with light .40 loads. |
| zonker1986 |
Posted - 02/29/2012 : 18:03:12
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Originally posted by 1st timer
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Originally posted by 1st timer
My new Glock 20 is anything but reliable, 3 misfires in 190 rounds, 6th round, about the 20th round, and somewhere around the 160th round.
Brand new Gun, factory made ammo, and two different brands. Never had a misfire in any other gun, ever. I'll be shipping it back to Glock, but the bottom line is it will be impossible to trust that gun at anytime other than at the range.
Got the 20SF back from the factory, according to the paperwork, they found nothing wrong, and the parts mentioned in the , were upgrades only. Went directly to the range, ran another 150 rounds through it. The good news is, no misfires. The bad news is 3, thats right 3 FTFs in the first 30 rounds. Being that one of the "upgrades" was new magazines, I would say that at the moment, the reliability is worse now than before!
sounds like underpowered ammo not creating enough oooomph to cycle the slide. I had this issue a couple of times and was ready to throw my pistol in the lake.....and then I switched ammo at the advice of the range officer on duty. Never had another problem.
My Bersa 45's won't cycle Winchester White Box without about a 25% failure rate, so I don't shoot WWB in them. I shoot Magtech and have no issues.
Since Glock found no issues with your gun, I would say there are no issues with your gun. Look for other things that you can change as its probably NOT the gun. |
| gunslinger |
Posted - 02/29/2012 : 09:53:38
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Originally posted by 1st timer
Forgot to mention, despite its reliability problem, it is a great gun to shoot, has the perfect grip angle, sights line up great, recoil not bad at all, grip is great, and I can shoot the thing with the same accuracy from either hand.
I have to say, and not only applicable to bad Glocks, but no unreliable gun is 'great to shoot.' My XD/M has been flawless; so has my 69C HP for 41 years. Those are great guns to shoot because they always do. |
| Tigershack |
Posted - 02/29/2012 : 06:17:32
I own a pair of Glocks, a G19 and a 'dreaded' G36. 
My 11 year old has had several FTF's with my G19 which I chalk up to limpwristing. He's still learning (and he prefers my Smith 60.)
I have had zero issues with either G19 or G36.
I am still at a loss as to why the G36 doesn't get more kudos. Yes, it's a rush everytime it goes bang, but it's fun. I like to shoot it one handed and then see how fast I can line up for the next shot. I love my Smith 60, but 6+1 of .45ACP beats 5 of .38Special or even .357 anyday.
I avoided Glocks at the beginning because I didn't want what 'everyone else' had. Now, whenever I enter gunshops, my eyes immediately zero in on the black bricks. I am even thinking of getting into more calibers, as long as I can save a few bucks on LE trade ins.
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| firefighter203 |
Posted - 02/28/2012 : 19:02:51
I presently own two glocks and have owned four or five over the past fifteen years. If I was told I had to get rid of every gun I own but one. I can say without a shadow of a doubt I'd keep my G23. I've literally carried that gun thru rain and fire and it's never even hiccuped. |
| 1st timer |
Posted - 02/28/2012 : 16:09:12
quote:
Originally posted by 1st timer
My new Glock 20 is anything but reliable, 3 misfires in 190 rounds, 6th round, about the 20th round, and somewhere around the 160th round.
Brand new Gun, factory made ammo, and two different brands. Never had a misfire in any other gun, ever. I'll be shipping it back to Glock, but the bottom line is it will be impossible to trust that gun at anytime other than at the range.
Got the 20SF back from the factory, according to the paperwork, they found nothing wrong, and the parts mentioned in the , were upgrades only. Went directly to the range, ran another 150 rounds through it. The good news is, no misfires. The bad news is 3, thats right 3 FTFs in the first 30 rounds. Being that one of the "upgrades" was new magazines, I would say that at the moment, the reliability is worse now than before! |
| wjh2657 |
Posted - 02/07/2012 : 15:09:52
Tornado took my house and garage on February 5, 2008. Neighbors and I recovered several of my guns after rubble was cleared from our yards. We found my Glock G22 buried under about 18 inches of clay while we were grading my lot for rebuild of house. We found it 6 months after tornado. Most of the other weapons were either bent, broken or rusted away. two 1911s were trashed, totally non-recoverable along with several other handguns and long guns.I took the Glock into the house, stripped it, washed it, oiled it and then reassembled it. I subsequently fired over 200 rounds through it without a single malfunction.
I have since traded it for a 3rd Gen G23.
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| hkguy |
Posted - 02/06/2012 : 21:19:42
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Originally posted by 1st timer
Forgot to mention, despite its reliability problem, it is a great gun to shoot, has the perfect grip angle, sights line up great, recoil not bad at all, grip is great, and I can shoot the thing with the same accuracy from either hand.
maybe for you, but i hate hate hate the glock grip angle, i had one, shot 1k rounds through it and sold it. i for the life of me could not convert to a glock after having a HK or two |
