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| Nathan |
Posted - 03/23/2007 : 09:09:45
despite being a 1911 man at heart, i also embrace combat tupperware and recognize its many advantages in several different platforms. i own and thoroughly enjoy many glocks and while glock has the lions share of the market there are many exciting offerings from the competition.....such as the above pictured .40 caliber M&P from S&W that i purchased today for $469.99. im not a fan of the .40 S&W (i would prefer .357 Sig) but ive wanted one of these since their release and i just couldnt wait anymore. i bought the .40 figuring i could swap in a 357 barrel later. for a long time ive wanted a true glock action with a 1911 grip angle and thanks to S&W i have just that.
the m&p comes in a neat package with two magazines, two alternate grip sizes (medium on the weapon with large and small options) and a decent carrying case with manuals.
i really like the concept of melonite (tenifer) treated stainless steel.
shown beside a springfield loaded champion, the size really is comparable.
one thing i couldnt help but notice is that on the magazine they gave their own vanity round a vanity label, but leave the "Sig" off the ".357 Sig" on the magazine. this seemed almost childish to me.
what i dont like:
there really isnt much to complain about. i dont like the interlock and i dont like the magazine disconnect, but i dont like either of those on any of my other weapons either.
the take-down proceedure also takes longer than i would like, but its not "bad" by any means.
the trigger reset could be more crisp, but im going to give it more range time to see what wears in.
finding a decent holster to use while waiting on a custom seems impossible, but thats no fault of the weapon so maybe its not worth mentioning. i was also trying to standardize my ammunition cache.....but now ill have to start stocking .40 as well (again, not the fault of the weapon so maybe its not worth mentioning either).
what i like:
simply put this is a great weapon. my grouping was "poor" by my (1911) standards, but i attribute this more to the tendencies of the .40 than i do to the weapon. i fully believe that in 9mm or 357 that my grouping would have been tighter.
the modular panels are nice to have, and make the weapon comfortable for just about anyone. although the reversible magazine catch is insignificant to me, its a very good design.
range time was excellent. i ran 100 rounds of corbon 165 grain jhp's, 200 rounds of blazer brass 180 grain ball, and 200 rounds of 180 grain WWB without a single failure of any kind despite abnormal angles and even purposeful limp-wristing. you cannot argue with proper function, and this weapon functioned exceptionally well. the extractor did a great job of sending the brass far away from my face which is a really big thing with me (nothing like finding yourself in a firefight only to be nailed in the eye by your own flying brass!).
to my surprise the trigger really isnt bad, and this is coming from a 1911 man. was the break as crisp as a 1911? of course not....but it was still pretty dang decent. at first i had a bit of trouble finding the reset point, but after 50 rounds or so it got much easier.
my only regret about buying this weapon is that an hour after purchasing it i found out that S&W will also be releasing it in .45 acp. had i known this i would have waited, but this just gives me an excuse to buy another one when the .45 is released. 
S&W has a winner on its hands. ill keep you posted on my progress as i learn this beautiful weapon. |
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| Calico Hunter |
Posted - 04/19/2011 : 08:01:44
Nathan,
Have you had the opportunity to shoot the S&W 1911 E series ? |
| willis_19d |
Posted - 02/20/2011 : 10:37:37
i was thinking about getting the m&p 40 carry package with the holster, 3 magazines, speed loader, and magazine holster for $590 |
| Maxwell |
Posted - 01/06/2011 : 18:58:21
I have got to agree. My 40c is one of my two primary CCW and I love the way it feels and shoots.
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| obiwankabaldi |
Posted - 12/26/2010 : 07:55:05
I have three of the M&P's two full size 9's one for IDPA and one for the wife as a HD gun, I also have the 40C and love it. They point well for me and fit my hands perfectly. Functionally I have found nothing to complain about. |
| harly69g |
Posted - 12/25/2010 : 08:35:15
I am not much of a double action guy unless its on a revolver.
I bought this S&W M&P 40 full size & Love it.
Have had no problems at all with it.
S&W out done themselves with the M&P series.
Looking at the M&P AR-15 now. |
| Wethington8093 |
Posted - 12/19/2010 : 23:54:48
I just bought a M&P 40 duty size to carry at work...I have carried a M&P40c for CC for couple years now and love them both, never a problem with the M&P40c |
| Larry V |
Posted - 12/16/2010 : 12:58:12
I shoot my MP 40 much better then my Gen 4 22 or My 23RTF2. That being said it is as accurate as my P30 40 and thats saying alot. I also have an MP 40c which has left my G 27 to safe duty!! |
| RJCapeCod |
Posted - 09/29/2010 : 10:23:50
I own an M&P .40 compact, which I shoot and clean every day. Field stripping is very easy if you do the following. Once the mag is removed, the so-called "take down tool" becomes accessable. Don't try to pull it straight out (that won't work) or to pry it off. Instead, twist it a quarter turn in one direction, then a half turn in the others, etc. With each twist, it will extricate itself. You will feel it loosen with every twist, and then it comes free readily. The process takes five seconds.
Once the pistol has been cleaned a couple of times, you most certainly will NOT need the take-down tool or anything else to lower the sear deactivation lever. Initially, I used a pencil, which worked better than the tool. But once the pistol is broken in, your fingertip is all you will need. No tools necessary.
Enjoy,
Ralph
Licensed for unrestricted carry in Massachusetts and Florida. |
| Johnde |
Posted - 09/05/2010 : 06:53:30
I've had my M&P 40 for about three months. When I first fired it, the trigger was gritty, which affected the accuracy somewhat. Out of the box, the Smith shot about as well as the broken-in Glock. I traced the trigger problem to machine marks on the striker disconnect ramp. I planned on polishing this part of the trigger mechanism, however repeated dry firing seems to have done the trick. My last trip to the range produced better groupings than the Glock 23. I do most of my live fire practice at 20' using both full power and target loads. I have yet to carry this weapon, as the Glock is easier to conceal. The Smith eats everything I feed it, no FTF or FTE, and the chamber is fully supported. I purchased the version without the magazine or external safeties. |
| dsims |
Posted - 07/25/2010 : 13:38:20
I've owned @ 5 S&W auto's over the years. The only one I could shoot well was the 1076, not sure if the others had accuracy issues or if it was just me. The M&P's are definately getting great reviews and catching on with competitive shooters.
I never liked my old Glocks, but now love my G23. I might have to give the M&P a try, if nothing else I think it's handsome as hell... |
| cmichael |
Posted - 07/24/2010 : 06:59:26
Here is a video my wife took few week ago M&P 40fs, little over 25 yard on starbucks coffee can.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QocEyJrXkCw |
| OneGunCharlie |
Posted - 05/28/2010 : 09:48:17
This M&P is probably my answer to a .40 gun. I just can't find an all-steel package that looks satisfactory.
Last night I watched some Youtube videos of people shooting it. Even a few people who were obviously completely new to handguns exhibited almost no muzzle flip.
I watched people shooting .40 Browning Hi-Powers and I saw plenty of muzzle flip.
The low muzzle flip on the M&P is no surprise, just look at it, or hold it.
Due to its contours, the web of the shooting hand sits way up high, just below the slide/barrel. |
| tpapa |
Posted - 01/17/2008 : 18:22:19
Thanks Nathan - You're a good man! |
| Nathan |
Posted - 01/17/2008 : 18:16:06
i never really considered the compact as an option, it just feels to big to me for a compact. i really do enjoy my m&p .40 and its probably the ultimate service weapon but i feel the g23 is a better concealed carry weapon just due to its size. |
| tpapa |
Posted - 01/17/2008 : 17:52:03
Nathan,
When you got your M&P 40 did you consider the compact as well and choose one over the other? I'm thinking of getting an M&P 40 compact or a Glock 23 but I still have alot of homework to do.
Thanks,
tpapa |
| rngerdv |
Posted - 01/09/2008 : 12:29:08
Robert,
That is a great deal for you department. Goes to show the commitment that S&W is going through to gain back the LEO base it enjoyed for many years.
I will echo the thoughts that after a few thousand rounds later I still think the M&P is a superb weapon. I have a MPM18XX series and have had zero issues and no mag dropouts of anykind.
If anything, with a full magazine, when inserted the slide releases on it's own to battery. Design? I don't know. Some think it's a drawback others like it. |
| iceman |
Posted - 01/08/2008 : 22:53:30
Nathan, I can only guess on some of your questions regarding switching from the Glock 22 to S&W M&P 40. First let me say Glocks are great guns. They have served my department very well. At the time of implementing the Glocks we issued S&W Model 10's. Going from the double action revolver to the Glock Safe Action was pretty natural.
Yes, our 22's are Generation 1 Glocks. My department was the first major department in the U.S. to carry the Glock 40's. As you can imagine, after fifteen plus years in service they are showing some signs of wear. I also believe the powers that be want some of the newer technology. If what I heard is correct S&W has offered to take our Glocks on an even trade for a new S&W. Outfitting over 4000 officers with new guns is costly, subtracting the cost of the guns takes a little sting out of that bite.
I also believe that S&W has also included 1500 M&P15's in the deal taking some of our surplus long guns for the trade. |
| Nathan |
Posted - 01/08/2008 : 20:09:01
i dont think you can go wrong with an m&p. there were some initial issues with magazine drops on the first production runs but i havent heard about any issues since. |
| BlackBirdCD |
Posted - 01/08/2008 : 16:42:43
Has anyone experienced a problem with magazines dropping out of the M&P? That seems to be the one common complaint on the M&P Forum (mostly with the Compact Models).
From what I can see this was a problem with earlier models - S&W may have tweaked the manufacturing a bit.
Regardless, I'm heading over to my dealer tomorrow to pick up an M&P Compact 9mm. My long deliberation over a carry piece is over. |
| Nathan |
Posted - 01/08/2008 : 16:34:55
are your current g22s third generation? are they problematic or just worn out? if worn out and have served well, why not just stay with the g22 (get new ones)? i would say the same thing (stay with what you know) had you told me they were currently carrying m&p's and were thinking of switching to g22s. its a tough choice for sure. s&w really did their homework with the m&p and glock...well...that design is certainly proven if nothing else. i have, carry, shoot, and very much enjoy both. would be a tough choice. |
| iceman |
Posted - 01/07/2008 : 23:55:47
Nathan, my department is considering a switch to the M&P 40 after over fifteen years with the Glock 22. I happened to be one of the grunts tasked with testing the M&P 40. I'm conservative when it comes to defensive weapons. New guns/ammo really have to sell me. I first shot 200 rounds and was told I could shoot more if I wanted after finishing the list of drills provided to me. So I shot another 800 rounds in one day, department cost of course. I tried to make the gun fail. It did not. Not a hiccup. I too found the accuracy to be defense worthy.
After finishing the range day one of range guys told me that particular S&W had 5000 rounds through it with no cleaning. 6000 rounds, no cleaning and no issues with reliability, that's impressive to me.
Have you gotten the .357 Sig barrel for you Smith yet? I like that round even better than the 40 as well. |
| bwatkins1223 |
Posted - 01/07/2008 : 22:47:06
I have the Fobus paddle holster which is a great holster but it does not hide the gun at all and it can get in the way. I like IWB holsters as long as they don't have to be put right on the hip. I would like to find one that goes in the middle of the back, IWB or OWB would not matter, to me, for the MOB holster. I have not been able to find one like this. Maybe I'm not looking in the right places. Any ideas? Thanks. |
| Nathan |
Posted - 01/07/2008 : 21:56:31
hello, welcome to the forum. my m&p .40 is awesome. what style holster (IWB/OWB/etc) do you prefer? |
| bwatkins1223 |
Posted - 01/07/2008 : 00:27:37
Hello, I am very new to this forum. This is the first forum I have participated in. I recently purchased a M&P .40 for my self. I took it with me on a camping trip in Kentucky. I was very impressed. My friend has the Sigma series 9mm. After putting 250 rounds through the M&P in about half an hour the only problem I had was the slide failed to lock back after the mag was empty. I used 200 remington 180gr. I had 50 Blazer 165gr. I love the trigger reset as compared to the Sigma series. I looked at several different guns before I bought this one. I am glad I chose the M&P. I think I paid a bit much for mine $600, which was just the gun and a Fobus paddle holster, what do you think? I forgot I did get the $50 rebate and 2 free magazines. Can anybody tell me of some good concealment holsters? |
| Nathan |
Posted - 01/02/2008 : 20:13:18
montana CWPs are literally printed on a desktop printer. i cut mine out and laminated it at office depot. |
