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Nathan Posted - 11/23/2008 : 23:10:48
due to a recent thread that was brought to my attention it is necessary to explain our official stance. this forum exists to promote responsible carry. period. this forum will never encourage or condone illegal carry. period. if it is illegal for you to carry there, dont go there. many will carry in spite of law, but this board will never condone it.
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MilProGuy Posted - 10/18/2010 : 06:20:19

I totally agree that we should abide by the law when conceal carrying...after all, the vast majority of legally-armed citizens are upstanding and law-abiding members of our communities.
Joshua Posted - 02/05/2010 : 23:11:50
+1
Alaskamike Posted - 01/06/2010 : 22:18:48
What an interesting discussion. I live in Alaska - an at will State, we do not need a permit to CC. If you do get a permit here, (A firearms course, fingerprints, all the rest) it gives you reciprocity in many if not most other States with CC.

I like Nathans last post. Wise.

I also agree that what you write on a public forum is public. Be wise. Those who, due to their situation, place they live, or percived threat to life in a given area, or decide in a given point in time chose to carry despite not having a permit to do so, are weighing the risks. Just be certain you weight them carfully

Civil disobedience has a cost - it alwasy has.
scrike83 Posted - 01/03/2010 : 18:17:34
quote:
Originally posted by rocketgeezer

and your gun is in your car cause the diner or resturant had a bar...



Well if you planned on carrying then you wouldn't be drinking anyway, so why not eat somewhere without a bar where your gun would be welcome? It's my opinion that if my gun isn't welcome somewhere then neither am I and my money...
Nathan Posted - 01/03/2010 : 16:08:58
carrying to protect your loved ones in spite of written law and publicly condoning the practice are two different issues entirely. carry is a very deep personal decision that every man must make for himself. i will never admit to or encourage anyone to carry in spite of law; nor will i condone the practice...but youll never see me judge anyone for doing it either. you must decide for yourself if you are willing to become a criminal by carrying in spite of written law, or vulnerable by disarming. that we will not condone it does not me we dont sympothize for the position these ridiculous laws place us in.
rocketgeezer Posted - 01/03/2010 : 15:58:07
I totaly agree with Nathan on carryin legally, but I do have a question how stupid are we going to feel if one of us is haveing dinner with our wife and a BG comes in sticks up the cashier, then comes after the patrons, sticks his gun in your face and demands your wallet and or wifes jewelry, and your gun is in your car cause the diner or resturant had a bar, the same question applys for any other puplic place that does not allow firearms,........just woundering about that
xXxDeltaxXx Posted - 09/26/2009 : 08:13:39
Thats a good idea Daanderson911 i'm gonna carry around my place in tx just to get a feel for it lol..
pistol_packing_moma_2000 Posted - 08/04/2009 : 17:46:49
I agree with Nathan 200%. When I first went for my CCW in Michigan I had only shot my pistol like 3 times. I did not qulify the first time out. But went back and had no problem the 2nd time. Now here 3 yrs later had to go for CCDW in Ky and again it took me 2 times to qulify only because I missed target by one shot. lol So to those who feel it is ok to break the law think again. I have seen people go to jail for less and not even have a gun on them or near them. You will be disaplend if you break the law in any manner at all. I would think that those who have been through the CCW OR CCDW class would understand that even demostic violance can be cause for you to loose your privalage to have a CCW/ CCDW at all.
dougjohn_ak Posted - 04/19/2009 : 12:34:40
You said it. How are we different from the criminals if we carry illegally? I agree wholeheartedly.
quote:
Originally posted by YooperTrav

i missed the thread in question but I would hope we all agree to abide by the law. Thats what seperates us from the criminals

and those people can just find another forum

daanderson911 Posted - 02/04/2009 : 18:37:51
Again, hopefully everyone has read this, but I'm going to go ahead and put my name on this one! I totally agree... and even though it seems like my CHL is NEVER going to get here, I'm not settinga foot outside my door with this gun unless its in its case! Period. But that doesn't mean I haven't been wearing it around the house, which is legal in TX, so I can get a "feel" for what position I feel the most confortable WHEN I can legally carry...
toyman Posted - 12/31/2008 : 18:53:51
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan

tell me that after Jan 1.


Nathan Posted - 12/31/2008 : 18:41:36
tell me that after Jan 1.
JCL Posted - 12/31/2008 : 15:44:13
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan

in order to keep the DB size manageable this site purges posts more than a year old. this is typically done jan 1.



I've seen some posts from before this year
Nathan Posted - 12/31/2008 : 15:38:28
quote:
Originally posted by acad54

Don't think for a minute, that a prosecuting attorney won't subpoena every post you made on this "gun nut" web site if you ever use your gun in self defense.
in order to keep the DB size manageable this site purges posts more than a year old. this is typically done jan 1.
acad54 Posted - 12/31/2008 : 12:15:25
Don't think for a minute, that a prosecuting attorney won't subpoena every post you made on this "gun nut" web site if you ever use your gun in self defense.
Nathan Posted - 12/31/2008 : 11:51:06
topic stickied.
GunNut Posted - 12/30/2008 : 19:33:01
Speaking from a place (literally and figuratively) where one cannot even get a CCW, the significance and responsibility associated with that privilege* becomes that much more meaningful. To me, anything that tarnishes the image of lawful carry, ownership, or self-defense is as reprehensible as real criminal acts.

* I believe self-defense is a right, but in our times and almost all our states, a CCW is a granted privilege.
Daddie_Tom Posted - 12/30/2008 : 10:34:54
I Agree!
medic68 Posted - 12/07/2008 : 12:19:49
Nathan, behind you 150%
dukenukum Posted - 12/07/2008 : 10:24:31
I believe that certain people wish us to not follow the law so they have a reason to do away with concealed / open carry and guns in general . this makes me all the more determined to follow the law .
sarge197 Posted - 11/26/2008 : 20:05:31
Landon,

It is too bad...of course, it's also job security. Bottom line is we don't really expect crooks to follow the law, in fact, we know they won't. If we don't want to be counted among their numbers, we must follow the law and carry legally.
LandonJ Posted - 11/26/2008 : 19:01:52
quote:
Originally posted by sarge197

As an active LEO, I completely concur with Nathan's position on legal carry. I can tell you that illegal carry, concealed or otherwise, is foolish and dangerous and simply should not be done, recommended, or condoned.



Hey Sarge,

Too bad the gangbangers, rapists and muggers aren't listening to you.
Nathan Posted - 11/25/2008 : 19:26:47
well said sean, thank you.
Sean99TJ Posted - 11/25/2008 : 16:18:40
We all need to remember that these are emotionally trying times for us and our way of life, but once we commit something to print on this forum the body language and voice inflection is missing, sarcasm can seem exceptionally cruel and demeaning and I am not innocent of this act on here. I apologise to anyone I have offended that actually was not my intention but going back and reading some of the posts I did us all a diservice with some of my comments (esp. those concerning .380 and smaller caliber guns). As we come to this season of Thanksgiving, this forum and it's members will be in my thoughts and prayers. It is amazing that we have a place like this to exchange ideas and experiences. Have a great Thanksgiving, be careful if you are traveling, and be safe out there.
xd45in Posted - 11/25/2008 : 11:38:34
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan

due to a recent thread that was brought to my attention it is necessary to explain our official stance. this forum exists to promote responsible carry. period. this forum will never encourage or condone illegal carry. period. if it is illegal for you to carry there, dont go there. many will carry in spite of law, but this board will never condone it.



I also agree 100% and I apoligize for my comment in that thread.

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