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shoesobjects
Starting Member
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 Posted - 02/15/2009 : 18:15:16
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Twice, once in self defense and once to protect three people with a shot gun pointed at them. I do not want it to happen a third time if possible. I fired my weapon on both occasions. The second one has been the hardest to deal with for me as the individual did not survive. That individual was shot with a Browning .380 at approximately 15 feet and succumbed at the scene. It was the only weapon I had that day but it proved effective enough to get it done. I would not recommend a .380 as a primary. I fired two rounds, "both, in and of themselves fatal" according to the coroner. The first round didn't do  even though it was a good shot (so it appeared).
What was the legal process like? Did you follow the call 911 immediately and basically say nothing and a lawyer up? I still waiting on my CCW background to show in the mail so I can get the permit. I will carry regularly and I'm constantly worried about the what if situation. Anyway, any insid |
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shoesobjects
Starting Member
USA
31 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2009 : 18:16:11
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Originally posted by shoesobjects
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Originally posted by medic68
Twice, once in self defense and once to protect three people with a shot gun pointed at them. I do not want it to happen a third time if possible. I fired my weapon on both occasions. The second one has been the hardest to deal with for me as the individual did not survive. That individual was shot with a Browning .380 at approximately 15 feet and succumbed at the scene. It was the only weapon I had that day but it proved effective enough to get it done. I would not recommend a .380 as a primary. I fired two rounds, "both, in and of themselves fatal" according to the coroner. The first round didn't do even though it was a good shot (so it appeared).
What was the legal process like? Did you follow the call 911 immediately and basically say nothing and a lawyer up? I still waiting on my CCW background to show in the mail so I can get the permit. I will carry regularly and I'm constantly worried about the what if situation. Anyway, any insight would be appreciated.
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44. mag danny
Average Member
USA
536 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2009 : 18:23:25
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| they are all very scary stories and there is nothing wrong wit being paranoid cuz u can say i am i dont like goin out to where there are big crowds and i dont like people behind me if i dont kno them. and if everyone here didnt have a gun we might not be talking on here |
i'll give my guns up when they come and pull them from my cold dead hands
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KG
Senior Member
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Posted - 02/15/2009 : 20:14:38
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Originally posted by 44. mag danny
they are all very scary stories and there is nothing wrong wit being paranoid cuz u can say i am i dont like goin out to where there are big crowds and i dont like people behind me if i dont kno them. and if everyone here didnt have a gun we might not be talking on here
That my friends, is the truth |
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gunslinger
Advanced Member
USA
2072 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2009 : 11:57:05
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| Let's see, not counting an M-61 Vulcan...once, just had to show the Hi-Power holstered and that changed the other guy's mind. And that is the best outcome you can achieve. |
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Hurrel
Junior Member
203 Posts |
Posted - 02/17/2009 : 18:27:35
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Yes, I have had to show it to stop me being sliced with a knife; just a few months ago.
Yes, many times in the infantry in Vietnam.
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Use a gun that works every time. "All skill is in vain when an Angel pisses in the flintlock of your musket." |
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Billy
New Member
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Posted - 02/17/2009 : 19:02:57
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Only once did I actually think I was going to be in a gunfight. Long story short is, I pissed off a senior citizen who was backing out of a parking spot without looking. Just tapped my horn to let him know I was there. Two minutes later and this maniac pulls up on my left at a red light and starts screaming at me. I was in no mood so started screaming back. He didn't like that too much so I see him reach across his waist with his right hand (I'm sitting up a bit higher in my Jeep Cherokee than his Grand Marquis), and produces something black, points it at me and I think, oh crap, this is it. I leaned back in the seat and reached for my weapon when I saw the stream of mace or whatever it was come out of his car and across my face. The two worst things about that encounter were:
1) When he sprayed the stuff, it went right across his little old wife's face and she was coughing and choking something awful.
2) The mace missed me but landed on an open can of soda I had sitting in the center console. Without knowing that, I took a sip after it was all over. Talk about your lips being on fire!
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zonker1986
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 02/17/2009 : 19:08:29
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Originally posted by Billy
Only once did I actually think I was going to be in a gunfight. Long story short is, I pissed off a senior citizen who was backing out of a parking spot without looking. Just tapped my horn to let him know I was there. Two minutes later and this maniac pulls up on my left at a red light and starts screaming at me. I was in no mood so started screaming back. He didn't like that too much so I see him reach across his waist with his right hand (I'm sitting up a bit higher in my Jeep Cherokee than his Grand Marquis), and produces something black, points it at me and I think, oh crap, this is it. I leaned back in the seat and reached for my weapon when I saw the stream of mace or whatever it was come out of his car and across my face. The two worst things about that encounter were:
1) When he sprayed the stuff, it went right across his little old wife's face and she was coughing and choking something awful.
2) The mace missed me but landed on an open can of soda I had sitting in the center console. Without knowing that, I took a sip after it was all over. Talk about your lips being on fire!
he's lucky you didn't press charges for assault. Funny story, but granddad is lucky he didn't get a trip to jail. |
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44. mag danny
Average Member
USA
536 Posts |
Posted - 02/17/2009 : 21:13:13
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i'll give my guns up when they come and pull them from my cold dead hands
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Jacobite
Average Member
USA
538 Posts |
Posted - 02/17/2009 : 21:45:53
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Jacobite
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
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Billy
New Member
61 Posts |
Posted - 02/18/2009 : 07:34:44
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he's lucky you didn't press charges for assault. Funny story, but granddad is lucky he didn't get a trip to jail.
Yep, but he took off so fast after the light changed, I did not get a chance to get his license plate. Plus I had such a big adrenaline dump after that, I really didn't care. I was just happy it didn't come down to a shoot out.
One question for all of you who have been in that situation, did time seem to slow down? I think we've all heard about it, but did you actually experience it? I know I did during that incident. I felt like I was in The Matrix as I leaned back to avoid the chemical stream and actually watched it pass in front of me. It also happened when I had my first motorcycle wreck. I remember having plenty of time to watch my arm get run over and then think ", the next thing that is going to happen is this truck is going to run my middle over and split me in half. I am going to die and it's going to be a horrible mess."
Anyone else experience that phenomenon? |
I prefer to ask forgiveness rather than permission. |
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medic68
Master of Mojo
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Posted - 02/18/2009 : 10:58:05
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Originally posted by shoesobjects
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Originally posted by medic68
Twice, once in self defense and once to protect three people with a shot gun pointed at them. I do not want it to happen a third time if possible. I fired my weapon on both occasions. The second one has been the hardest to deal with for me as the individual did not survive. That individual was shot with a Browning .380 at approximately 15 feet and succumbed at the scene. It was the only weapon I had that day but it proved effective enough to get it done. I would not recommend a .380 as a primary. I fired two rounds, "both, in and of themselves fatal" according to the coroner. The first round didn't do even though it was a good shot (so it appeared).
What was the legal process like? Did you follow the call 911 immediately and basically say nothing and a lawyer up? I still waiting on my CCW background to show in the mail so I can get the permit. I will carry regularly and I'm constantly worried about the what if situation. Anyway, any insid
The worst situation occurred in 1977. The process was a bit different than it is now I am sure. The circumstances were also pretty cut and dried as the individual was committing an armed robbery and had the three people on the floor getting ready to shoot them. I just happened to hear them begging for their lives as I was taking the trash out of my work establishment that was next door. After the shooting the police took my weapon and took my statement and those of the victims. They never even took me down to the police station. About three weeks later I was summoned to a Coroners Inquest where I was interviewed under oath, as were the victims. The cornors report was read into evidence and the judge ruled that it was a legal homicide. The biggest hassle was getting the weapon back from the property clerk as the paperwork I was given had not been processed properly. Ultimately I was able to get the weapon back and I later sold it to purchase a .357 j-frame S&W. There was no family to file a civil suit against me and I am sure at that time it would have been dismissed based on the inquest finding. The other individuals who had participated in the robbery that had exited the front of the building when they heard the shots were later apprehended and prosecuted. I was summoned to testify about the shooting and they were convicted of armed robbery and for the murder of their accomplice. The hardest thing for me to deal with though was the kid was only 19 years old when I punched his ticket for the back of the line. Sorry it took so long to answer your post. |
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44. mag danny
Average Member
USA
536 Posts |
Posted - 02/18/2009 : 18:01:16
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| yes i have had that time slow down when i flipped my car 3 times ( wasnt my fault and i walked away with out a scratch) but as i wenty side over side it seemed like for ever but prolly on like 15 seconds but all i could think is i hope i dont land on the roof but its an experience and feeling you never for get this happened to me 4 years ago and feels like yesterday |
i'll give my guns up when they come and pull them from my cold dead hands
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billfromtx
Junior Member
USA
112 Posts |
Posted - 02/18/2009 : 18:45:25
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twice...
Drew my 45 once on 3 drunk retards outside a trucker stop in Dallas Tx who were blind slopy drunk and wanted to fight and thought I was a good subject...I punched the head honcho (mouthiest) in the face and drew on the 2 still standing!... I did not want to shoot them...but I was not going to fight them! Luckily they were sober enough to know they would have wound up on the wrong end of the stick.
and I killed a crazy chow dog with the same 45 in my driveway that was trying to attack my kids and lab bird dog. |
To err is human.
To forgive is divine.
Neither of which is Marine Corps policy. |
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KG
Senior Member
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Posted - 02/18/2009 : 21:18:44
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| That happened when I wrecked my first bike. I was sliding on my back for what seemed like forever. I remember thinking that I was going to get hit. Road rash is a mofo. |
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alienbogey
Starting Member
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Posted - 02/18/2009 : 22:29:15
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Time went to s..l...o...w...m...o...t...i...o...n for me when I dumped my first road bike at high speed on a mountain road. Like it was yesterday I can see the front wheel sliding out, watch the fork approaching pavement, realize there's nothing I can do, and thinking, "This is really going to hurt."
I haven't pulled my pistol on anyone; hope I never have to. |
Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side. |
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bradym77
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 02/20/2009 : 18:36:24
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| I was going up the stairs to my then "girlfriend's" apartment and a big guy, and I mean a BIG guy (I was 6'1 250 and solid at the time and I was nothing next to him). He jumped out of the bushes next to the stairs leading up to the apt and I jumped back down the stairs and pulled my Glock 19 and pointed it at his very large COM. You wouldn't think that much mass would be able to stop so suddenly but it did. He just calmly looked at me and turned around and walked away without a word being said. That part chilled me more than him jumping out at me. She stayed with me until I had her completely moved out of there. |
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dst86
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 02/22/2009 : 19:52:12
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| Once. I drew on him, but in the state of Pa, when they retreat you CAN NOT fire/ |
Glock 27,23,33
S&W Sigma 40VE
Colt 1991A1
Feg .380 Auto.
Remington 870LE(P)
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11bravo
Junior Member
353 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2009 : 21:08:17
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| The day i bought my g23 had an issues me and a buddy had been into over some dumb stuff he called saying he was coming to the house to beat my ass, I told him I would meet him anywhere but don't come to the house cus rebecca and my son were home. Well nothing happened for bit i got ready for bed, had to work the next day and all of a sudden my front door gets kicked in, i pick up the g23 and fired one round, hit him in the lower right side. It was my buddy I had be into it with, the bullet hit a kidney and got lodged in is spine, he is now in a wheelchair and awaiting trail. |
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KG
Senior Member
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Posted - 02/22/2009 : 21:16:59
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Originally posted by 11bravo
The day i bought my g23 had an issues me and a buddy had been into over some dumb stuff he called saying he was coming to the house to beat my ass, I told him I would meet him anywhere but don't come to the house cus rebecca and my son were home. Well nothing happened for bit i got ready for bed, had to work the next day and all of a sudden my front door gets kicked in, i pick up the g23 and fired one round, hit him in the lower right side. It was my buddy I had be into it with, the bullet hit a kidney and got lodged in is spine, he is now in a wheelchair and awaiting trail.
Thats wild |
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atgrzymala
Junior Member
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Posted - 02/22/2009 : 21:21:44
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Originally posted by 11bravo
The day i bought my g23 had an issues me and a buddy had been into over some dumb stuff he called saying he was coming to the house to beat my ass, I told him I would meet him anywhere but don't come to the house cus rebecca and my son were home. Well nothing happened for bit i got ready for bed, had to work the next day and all of a sudden my front door gets kicked in, i pick up the g23 and fired one round, hit him in the lower right side. It was my buddy I had be into it with, the bullet hit a kidney and got lodged in is spine, he is now in a wheelchair and awaiting trail.
He's lucky to be alive. Now Im curious what the problem was, but it's really not my business.
Thats wild
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scrike83
Puts the cool in Coolhand
USA
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Posted - 02/23/2009 : 05:18:27
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| 3 times, all in my line of work as a LEO. The most recent being last summer, in a rather long standoff with an armed suicidal person trying to get us to shoot him. Came out ahead in all the incidents with not a shot fired... |
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mattinglyt
Watchdog
USA
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Posted - 02/23/2009 : 06:50:44
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twice I have, one I had to draw that I don't care to describe and the other was just my hand on my weapon and a defensive position that made a trucker w/ a large knife change his mind quickly.
I work as a diesel tech and was in another dealership taking a certification class. I knew I was not going to be climbing all over the trucks as much as normal and was going to be in an unfamiliar area so I was able to wear my pistol in my work clothes just fine. There is a big bay window over looking the service shop floor from the service office. We just happened to step out of the classroom to take a look at two brand new trucks that were not on the market yet and we were all standing there talking about it. A guy in the service office was obviously very heated about a bill he was being given and we could hear him over some of the air tools in the shop yelling about being screwed on the work.
When he left a couple of us went in the office to see WTF was the issue and that is about the time he came back in from his truck, he had a LARGE bowie knife and was pointing it at the service manager saying something about castrating and slitting throats. I just happen to be slightly between them and all at once found myself w/ my hand on my pistol w/ my stong side turned away from him, weak hand extended and yelling commands at him to drop the knife and step outside. He apparently recognized what I was doing because his demeanor changed rather quickly, it must have been that "knife to a gunfight" kind of feeling.
He left w/ the knife and went out to his truck. About the time the cops arrived he was trying to leave. The three state cops and two local cops that questioned everyone came over to me and actually thanked me for being a "responsible" citizen. I said I was just trying to get home safe every night. The manager of the shop came over to me later that day and said "you do know we have a no guns policy here, right". I couldn't believe what he just said and just shook my head as I walked away from the idiot who was apparently not gratefull to still have his balls. |
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GreenDrake
Average Member
USA
601 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2009 : 07:13:32
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| Does a M198 155mm Howitzer count? If not, no I have not had to draw or use my weapon. I hope I never have to. |
I hope that I can be half the man my dog thought I was. |
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BikerRN
Average Member
720 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2009 : 00:31:12
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I'm a LEO, but two of three of my encounters happened when I wasn't. That's all I'm going to say, except that one of then also involved a BUG.
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Any of you ever used a gun for self defense?
