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hblac
Starting Member
USA
43 Posts |
 Posted - 09/21/2010 : 07:18:14
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I've had several failures to go into battery with my PPS 9. I'v e been running Hydra Shock 147 grain and Winchester Ranger 147 gr plus the usual range ammo like PMC FMJ. Can't remember exactly which brand was causing problems. Anyone else had these issues? I talked to the guy at Earl's Repair Service the factory direct repair service and importer of the german guns and I was told that the PPS doesn't like truncated bullets like the Hydra-Shok. Anyone else seen this? He recommended Winchester Silver-Tips. Anyone noticed one brand/model of bullets that have problems with the PPS (mine is S & W)?
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Nathan
Big Sky Guy
USA
21632 Posts |
Posted - 09/21/2010 : 08:33:41
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| i never had any such issues. federal HST 147 grain is what i carried in mine. |
Nathan In Montana, carrying a Gen4 Glock 19 loaded with Federal 147 grain +P JHPs carried in a Galco King Tuk thats worn on a Wilderness Instructor's belt.
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medic68
Master of Mojo
5131 Posts |
Posted - 09/21/2010 : 08:54:22
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Originally posted by hblac
I've had several failures to go into battery with my PPS 9. I'v e been running Hydra Shock 147 grain and Winchester Ranger 147 gr plus the usual range ammo like PMC FMJ. Can't remember exactly which brand was causing problems. Anyone else had these issues? I talked to the guy at Earl's Repair Service the factory direct repair service and importer of the german guns and I was told that the PPS doesn't like truncated bullets like the Hydra-Shok. Anyone else seen this? He recommended Winchester Silver-Tips. Anyone noticed one brand/model of bullets that have problems with the PPS (mine is S & W)?
Hal
How many rounds through the weapon? After 3500 rounds in my 9MM PPS I needed to replace the recoil spring. That cured the problem immediately. You might try lubing the spring with a dry lube (per dmars suggestion over at ppstalk) and see if that fixes the issue. |
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hblac
Starting Member
USA
43 Posts |
Posted - 09/21/2010 : 09:29:37
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| Only ~ 300 rounds so far. Right now I've had too many failures to go into battery to consider it as my EDC or CCW weapon. Not sure if its worth the cost to get that remedied or just sell it and go with something else. I might also add that a couple years ago I had a Walther PPK/S that had far worse feeding problems. I realize all manufacturers have a small percentage of products that are defective. But....the role this gun was intended to serve has zero tolerance for failure. |
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LandonJ
Advanced Member
USA
6375 Posts |
Posted - 09/21/2010 : 10:22:26
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Originally posted by hblac
Only ~ 300 rounds so far.
Follow Dmars' lubrication protocol and BREAK IN the gun. 300 rounds is not broken in. |
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Nathan
Big Sky Guy
USA
21632 Posts |
Posted - 09/21/2010 : 10:23:36
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Originally posted by hblac
Only ~ 300 rounds so far.
that weapon isnt broken in yet; run a few more hundred rounds through it before considering them valid failures. |
Nathan In Montana, carrying a Gen4 Glock 19 loaded with Federal 147 grain +P JHPs carried in a Galco King Tuk thats worn on a Wilderness Instructor's belt.
NRA Certified Instructor, Rifle, Shotgun and Pistol
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hblac
Starting Member
USA
43 Posts |
Posted - 09/21/2010 : 11:19:16
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| 500? For break in? |
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Nathan
Big Sky Guy
USA
21632 Posts |
Posted - 09/21/2010 : 11:38:39
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| 500 is my comfort zone number. |
Nathan In Montana, carrying a Gen4 Glock 19 loaded with Federal 147 grain +P JHPs carried in a Galco King Tuk thats worn on a Wilderness Instructor's belt.
NRA Certified Instructor, Rifle, Shotgun and Pistol
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hblac
Starting Member
USA
43 Posts |
Posted - 09/21/2010 : 11:55:24
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| My SigPro 2022 and G26 did't need any break in. |
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Nathan
Big Sky Guy
USA
21632 Posts |
Posted - 09/21/2010 : 14:28:48
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| both are loose tolerance weapons that typically dont require breakin. your PPS in my opinion, will. |
Nathan In Montana, carrying a Gen4 Glock 19 loaded with Federal 147 grain +P JHPs carried in a Galco King Tuk thats worn on a Wilderness Instructor's belt.
NRA Certified Instructor, Rifle, Shotgun and Pistol
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hblac
Starting Member
USA
43 Posts |
Posted - 09/21/2010 : 18:02:56
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| Problem solved! I traded the PPS 9 for a new M&P357c late this afternoon. I like it when guns run right out of the box. |
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BobMcT
New Member
USA
92 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2010 : 08:36:09
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| I understand the frustration. I wouldn't want to own a weapon that would have multiple failures while breaking in. My PPS has never had any kind of failure out of the box. It's gone 500 rounds without any incident. I would have to believe there was a problem with your PPS. It's a shame you couldn't have gotten a replacement. It is a fantastic pistol. |
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Tequila Jake
Starting Member
USA
4 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2011 : 09:20:01
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Santa left me a Walter PPS for Christmas--nice Santa! But, he didn't leave me a holster. I plan to carry either at the 3:00 position on a belt or, maybe (big maybe) AIWB. What's the best holster for either of these positions?
Thanks for any suggestions/recommendations.
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BearTaylor
Junior Member
USA
294 Posts |
Posted - 01/03/2011 : 08:18:02
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| I've owned a PPS40 for over a year and it goes bang everytime I tell it to. It's my goto carry gun when I'm in light clothing or wear a vest on motorcycle trips (perfect vest gun). However, I'd stop carrying in a heartbeat if it malfunctioned. |
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Niche
Starting Member
USA
4 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2011 : 02:34:51
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| Strange. My PPS 9mm is the ONLY semi-auto I own that has never had any sort of malfunction of any kind (don't own a Glock... yet). I did purchase the newer WAP10008 model with the night sights and 3 mags. It could be the newer models run better, or I just lucked out. I've used slide glide on the rails and Eezox on everything else since day one. |
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packinpastor86
Starting Member
USA
16 Posts |
Posted - 02/27/2011 : 19:39:27
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| As anyone tried the PPS 40 sw? I'd be concerned, with the 40 cal being such a snappy round that a small gun like the PPS would make it hard or uncomfortable to shoot? |
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gp193
Starting Member
24 Posts |
Posted - 02/28/2011 : 04:57:45
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Originally posted by packinpastor86
As anyone tried the PPS 40 sw? I'd be concerned, with the 40 cal being such a snappy round that a small gun like the PPS would make it hard or uncomfortable to shoot?
I just bought one the other day and didn't think that the recoil was hard to manage at all. I'm not a particularly large, imposing guy and I found it pretty easy to control. |
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end over end
Starting Member
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Posted - 03/10/2011 : 05:20:22
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In the six months I have owned it, I have put 300+ rounds through my PPS 9MM w/o any problems whatsoever. I will agree, I did have a couple of empties hit me in the forehead, but that was early rounds. Later into the still-breaking-in rounds, I have not had that problem. I was considering the .40 S&W caliber, but I believe there are more failures with the PPS in that caliber than in the 9MM.
To answer some holster questions, I do not feel comfortable having a gun of this size in a pocket - therefore I carry a IWB. I purchased a High Noon Bare Asset - this thing disappears on me. Great price.
I am completely impressed with this gun. I find that this gun naturally falls on target for me and my grip (something that a Glock never does for me). Minimal recoil and tight grouping instills alot of confidence in me for this gun. I must say, this gun has got me interested in purchasing another Walther.
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kinoons
Junior Member
USA
319 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2011 : 08:55:57
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| I'm well over 1000 rds and two years into my PPS experience (.40 cal) and I cannot recall a single failure. While I occasionally flirt with another EDC, such as a HK p7m8, Sig P6, and Ruger SP 101, I always come back to my PPS. |
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The doctor
Junior Member
USA
301 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2011 : 12:41:11
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| Now about a month into having a Walther, I am loving this little gun. Carries incredibly well, shoots straight and no mechanical issues. Would highly recommend if you can afford it. |
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RC3291
Starting Member
USA
5 Posts |
Posted - 07/16/2011 : 18:46:49
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| I have only ran about 100 rounds thru mine and no problems. |
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Danny727
Starting Member
USA
3 Posts |
Posted - 08/30/2011 : 16:21:36
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| Hey guys, this is my first time on ANY forum of any kind. I have skimmed through previous posts about the Walther PPS having problems. I bought the gun used from a very credible and well known gun shop here in Michigan and the second time I shot it, the gun jammed up 4 times out of 100 rounds. I was using Winchester FMJ ammo, any ideas or things I should look for? Also any ammo recommendations would be helpful. |
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BobMcT
New Member
USA
92 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2011 : 09:03:30
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Although I posted earlier in this thread I had gone 500 rounds with no problem, I did have some problems shortly after. I started to have feeding and/or failure to eject problems about 1 out of every 50 rounds. The loading round would jam up to the expended shell. I took it to a gunsmith friend who checked it out. He felt the brass transfer buildup on the cartridge loading ramp (flat bar piece) could cause problems in a pistol with such close tolerances. He re-polished the feed ramp AND polished the finish on the cartridge loading ramp to where both are smooth and shinny. He also suggested keeping a bit more oil on the parts than I was using.
I've been back to the range twice and shot about 400 rounds with no problems at all. Although my PPS had the feed ramp (2 parts) polished, the gunsmith felt both that and the cartridge loading ramp should have been polished by Walther. He works on all the county sheriff guns and says they do that to all of them, whether the manufacturer does or not. I feel totally confident with my PPS again. |
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Danny727
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 09/01/2011 : 09:16:02
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| Hey BobMcT..I really appreciate the advice and now that you say that I feel like my gun has that same problem with brass transfer buildup on the cartridge loading ramp. Also I could probably use a little more oil on these parts of my PPS as well. I will have to find a local gunsmith that has some good references and have him polish mine up. Any recommendations on ammo for both target and self defense? |
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Eric
Senior Member
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Posted - 09/01/2011 : 09:36:00
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Originally posted by Danny727
Hey BobMcT..I really appreciate the advice and now that you say that I feel like my gun has that same problem with brass transfer buildup on the cartridge loading ramp. Also I could probably use a little more oil on these parts of my PPS as well. I will have to find a local gunsmith that has some good references and have him polish mine up. Any recommendations on ammo for both target and self defense?
I bought my PPS .40 almost 3yrs ago now and it's still my EDC.
I get all my range ammo from Wal-Mart. WWB, the CCI Blazer Brass they used to carry, and for the past year or so the Federal Champion. I always shoot the same 180gr weight as my defensive rounds.
For defensive rounds, I've only used Federal 180gr HST JHP. |
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Review - Walther PPS
