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YeeeahSteve
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USA
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Posted - 05/15/2009 :  22:01:07  Show Profile  Send YeeeahSteve an AOL message  Reply with Quote
So, a few friends and I were having a little chat about firearms while waiting for class to get out. The topic of Glocks came up. Someone said they were looking into a decently priced hand gun. So, I suggested a Glock. The guy sitting next to me says, " You don't want a Glock." "Why do you say that?" I asked curiously. "I just don't think they are very reliable." "Have you ever owned one?" I asked. "No." He said cautiously. "I have literally fired thousands upon thousands of rounds from my 2nd hand heavily used police issued Glock with no failures of any kind...ever." He refused to believe that I had even put that many rounds through any gun let alone without a failure and there was no way of reasoning with him. Class let out before I could tell him about the various people I've known that have tens of thousands of rounds through their Glocks without even cleaning them. Some people are just hard to convince I guess.

zonker1986
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USA
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Posted - 05/15/2009 :  22:10:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
all it takes is one little rumor from a friend of a friend of a friend that had a problem, and they choose to ignore the facts.
Not a more reliable auto pistol made. I've never had a hiccup in sixteen years and ten different Glocks. That's ok though. More for us that know better.


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pinkhamr
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USA
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Posted - 05/15/2009 :  22:13:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Zonker, "Not a more reliable auto pistol made" Hmmm, well there is the standard 1911 ...... ;-)


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Nathan
Big Sky Guy

USA
21541 Posts

Posted - 05/15/2009 :  22:22:23  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pinkhamr

Zonker, "Not a more reliable auto pistol made" Hmmm, well there is the standard 1911 ...... ;-)
now i love a 1911 as much as anybody but i can say with surity that my beloved 1911s are no where near as reliable as any off the shelf glock. yours arent either, my friend.

under perfect conditions (cleaned and lubed) you should be able to expect reliable performance from a 1911 but the further you get away from perfect conditions the greater the differences in the designs start to show.

Nathan In Montana, carrying a Gen4 Glock 19 loaded with Federal 147 grain +P JHPs carried in a Galco King Tuk thats worn on a Wilderness Instructor's belt.

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i12flytoday
Average Member

USA
609 Posts

Posted - 05/15/2009 :  22:49:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My Glocks are the only weapons I have owned that have operated flawlessly before any sort of break in. My M&P is a close second, but it needed it's break in.

The guy was obviously BSing... There are literally tens of thousands of people that swear by their Glocks and how reliable they are. I remember watching a CHP television show in which an officer was qualifying at an outdoor range. Her Beretta 92FS jammed repeatedly. She claimed it was because she hadn't cleaned it. If it was a Glock, she wouldn't have looked dumb on national tv. LOL

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JB1
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USA
696 Posts

Posted - 05/15/2009 :  23:14:07  Show Profile  Click to see JB1's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Reliability is the one thing that makes a Glock all that it is.
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nunnya
New Member

USA
56 Posts

Posted - 05/15/2009 :  23:18:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not a huge fan of Glock.
They just don't point well for me.
I wouldn't use reloaded .40cal in one either, due to rumors of potential problems.
But for reliability with factory ammo they have a steller, almost mythical reputation.
You'd be hard pressed to find a more reliable semi-auto with a track record equal to Glock.


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Gunaddict
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169 Posts

Posted - 05/15/2009 :  23:46:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Most of us who own Glocks would be shocked beyond belief if it ever had any kind of major (or minor for that matter) problem. If I'm not carrying M&P I'm carrying the Glock 33. Some days it's both! Glock doesnt feel as good in my hand as M&P but I feels mighty secure that if it clears the leather it will go bang every time.

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medic68
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Posted - 05/15/2009 :  23:57:40  Show Profile  Visit medic68's Homepage  Send medic68 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by YeeeahSteve

So, a few friends and I were having a little chat about firearms while waiting for class to get out. The topic of Glocks came up. Someone said they were looking into a decently priced hand gun. So, I suggested a Glock. The guy sitting next to me says, " You don't want a Glock." "Why do you say that?" I asked curiously. "I just don't think they are very reliable." "Have you ever owned one?" I asked. "No." He said cautiously. "I have literally fired thousands upon thousands of rounds from my 2nd hand heavily used police issued Glock with no failures of any kind...ever." He refused to believe that I had even put that many rounds through any gun let alone without a failure and there was no way of reasoning with him. Class let out before I could tell him about the various people I've known that have tens of thousands of rounds through their Glocks without even cleaning them. Some people are just hard to convince I guess.

Send this link to the numb skull and see what he has to say

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_JuF23qazI

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Phlebo
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Posted - 05/16/2009 :  05:45:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The only malfunction that occurs with a GLOCK firearm is when some one with a limp wrist operates it!!!
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LKline
Jew-Jitsu Master

USA
5029 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2009 :  06:42:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I dont like glocks at all but i will never knock their reliability.
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PKL
Advanced Member

USA
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Posted - 05/16/2009 :  06:54:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I love my Glock 19 with all of my heart and so far it has functioned flawlessly and effortlessly, obviously.

Living in California and still own lots of guns
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whiskeymike
Starting Member

USA
37 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2009 :  07:07:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have more Glocks than I will admit in front of my wife (more 1911's, too).
I had an early G36 that was not reliable; failures to feed. Gun gone.

I had a failure to fire in a G33 with C-B 125jhp; that's a total of one,ever.
That's all, folks. No other failures to feed, fire or eject in any gun.

I do love 1911's, but I have had failures to feed or eject.I know about the "tap/rack" drill, but it's nicer not to have to do it.



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Bruce
Senior Member

USA
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Posted - 05/16/2009 :  07:26:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well ... you know what they say about "opinions" don't you? That certainly applies in that guys case.

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JB1
Average Member

USA
696 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2009 :  11:27:53  Show Profile  Click to see JB1's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Phlebo

The only malfunction that occurs with a GLOCK firearm is when some one with a limp wrist operates it!!!


I've tried limp wristing my Glocks and I have never been able to create an FTF.
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Nathan
Big Sky Guy

USA
21541 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2009 :  12:15:17  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JB1

I've tried limp wristing my Glocks and I have never been able to create an FTF.
heh...same here. i have a g17 that i cannot get to fail no matter what i do to it. none of my other glocks have ever failed, at all, either...but the g17 has never been cleaned, lubed, or even field stripped in over 25,000 rounds.

Nathan In Montana, carrying a Gen4 Glock 19 loaded with Federal 147 grain +P JHPs carried in a Galco King Tuk thats worn on a Wilderness Instructor's belt.

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chokol8cuvrdantz
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USA
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Posted - 05/16/2009 :  12:51:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan

quote:
Originally posted by JB1

I've tried limp wristing my Glocks and I have never been able to create an FTF.
heh...same here. i have a g17 that i cannot get to fail no matter what i do to it. none of my other glocks have ever failed, at all, either...but the g17 has never been cleaned, lubed, or even field stripped in over 25,000 rounds.



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JB1
Average Member

USA
696 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2009 :  13:01:51  Show Profile  Click to see JB1's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by chokol8cuvrdantz

quote:
Originally posted by Nathan

quote:
Originally posted by JB1

I've tried limp wristing my Glocks and I have never been able to create an FTF.
heh...same here. i have a g17 that i cannot get to fail no matter what i do to it. none of my other glocks have ever failed, at all, either...but the g17 has never been cleaned, lubed, or even field stripped in over 25,000 rounds.



That's Nathan's Red-Headed Step Pistol


WOW! No kidding!
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ath
Starting Member

USA
32 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2009 :  13:28:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A Glock generally runs well. I have only once had an issue with a Glock 17, with an early serial number (AAC). The main issue is that there was no maintenance performed on this pistol [ever}, it somehow has sand in it, and the magazines were left loaded for over 10 years. Needless to say, I experienced a few issues with the firearm, then retired it to the bag at the Range and now I am getting it repaired.
I have owned 3 other Glocks, I have never had any issues that were caused by the firearm itself. Certainly with ammunition, there can be certain problems. But I certainly would never refuse to carry one, as they are a pretty excellent weapon system, when not treated very poorly.

ATH
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Tequila
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1585 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2009 :  14:01:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Judge for yourself by test firing it first and see how it performs. Don't believe a word from anyone. However, it's best to be safe that you fire using factory loaded ammo.

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FFemt5287
Baron of Obscure Calibers

USA
3577 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2009 :  14:15:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Glock is the Honda Civic of the gun world. No matter how many rounds, how few cleanings, how many drops, how old, they just keep running. Very no frills and very reliable.

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ram229
Junior Member

USA
347 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2009 :  16:52:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Glocks are the few guns, if not only, that I have owned and TRUSTED right out of the box. The only Glock I didn't like was the G21 but that was a size issue with my hand and NOT a function problem. I had someone say the same kind of thing my Sig 229 .40 when I started carrying it and it has been 100 percent reliable too.
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FHBrumb
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USA
94 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2009 :  17:35:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had a Glock 22 long ago, and it was 100%. I've been through lots of pistols, and none have surpassed it for reliability. Most of my revolvers equalled it, but you can't surpass 100%. I seriously do not recall even one failure of any kind. There was a time when I shot 500 rounds a week for close to a year. I had money to burn back then.

My XD has choked once or twice. I had a 1911 that was no good for me. My Star PD wasn't good, nor was my Firestar 40. The PPK left me cold, as far as reliability.

The part in that video about it running after the guide rod came apart was impressive. Not that it needs a rod, but that the back part was still in the gun, and it didn't lock up.

I can't imagine shooting that many mags back to back. That had to hurt, even with a 9mm.

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Colossal Uprising
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USA
293 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2009 :  18:11:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I used to have a Glock 27. I fired it often and never once had an issue. I actually was on my way into the store to buy a Glock when I liked the way the Kahr fit in my hand. I have no doubt I will be getting a Glock 19 as my 9mm when I buy one.

The only thing I do not like about Glock is that I am a non-conformist and buying something that everyone else buys or likes annoys me.

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Sean99TJ
Watchdog

USA
3455 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2009 :  18:47:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Colossal Uprising

The only thing I do not like about Glock is that I am a non-conformist and buying something that everyone else buys or likes annoys me.



How about an HK then......lol



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Nathan
Big Sky Guy

USA
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Posted - 05/16/2009 :  20:35:03  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Colossal Uprising

The only thing I do not like about Glock is that I am a non-conformist and buying something that everyone else buys or likes annoys me.
dang near everybody uses a hammer to drive a nail. if i pick up a hammer to drive a nail its not because im a "conformist", its because a hammer is the best tool for that particular job. i would highly encourage you to reconsider basing a decision as critical as your carry weapon on the belief that it makes you a conformist.

the reason the glock is so popular is because its the right tool for the job.

Nathan In Montana, carrying a Gen4 Glock 19 loaded with Federal 147 grain +P JHPs carried in a Galco King Tuk thats worn on a Wilderness Instructor's belt.

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