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Nathan
Big Sky Guy
USA
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 Posted - 07/19/2006 : 23:57:26
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about six weeks ago i bought the above pictured kimber pro raptor 2. although i followed break-in proceedure, the weapon just wouldnt function reliably. after seemingly continual failures to feed and multiple failures to eject (a little over 1000 rounds total) i got a full refund from my local dealer who sent it back to kimber for repairs. he recently got it back from kimber and he gave me a copy of the invoice they sent back.
looking over the list of repairs, it definately waters down my perception of what "custom shop" really means. i could understand problems with a production line pistol, but doesnt "custom shop" indicate hand fitting and extra care during the build? how in the hell does a weapon make it through a custom shop with this much wrong with it? to me this signifies that "custom shop" is just a stamping they put on the slide.....marketing to justify the extra expense.
.....unbelievably im actually considering purchasing this weapon again from the same dealer. i was extremely pleased with how it felt in my hand, and very disappointed that it wouldnt function for me. |
Nathan In Montana, carrying a Gen4 Glock 19 loaded with Federal 147 grain +P JHPs carried in a Galco King Tuk thats worn on a Wilderness Instructor's belt.
NRA Certified Instructor, Rifle, Shotgun and Pistol
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Craig
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 07/20/2006 : 01:09:10
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That is amazing! I wonder if someone got a foot up their ass over this and tried to make up for it by going all-out on the repair?
However, break it down and it does make a little sense.
#1 Barrel chamber reamed - If you recall this is what I suspected it needed.
#3 Barrel chamber polished - It makes sence to polish the chamber after reaming.
#2 Ejector replaced - if the ejector is fitted to the chamber then maybe they needed to start over after reaming and polishing? Also, because of the tight chamber maybe the ejector showed signs of premature wear?
#4 & #5 How many recoil springs does it have? Is this a double entry typo?
#6 Does this go with #4 & #5? What manual, the owner's manual or a Kimber shop service manual?
#7 Okay, so the mag was adjusted.
Is it possible because of 1000 rounds through the gun the spring and mag 'broke in' and thus don't have the 'new' feel to the gunsmith so he did his thing?
I had Kimber install my ambi-safety and the details in the paperwork stunned me - I thought I got the wrong pistol.
I'm not contradicting the facts of your dissapointing Kimber experience, but I think a lesser company may have passed this one on down the line to someone else. |
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Why do I fear my government? I am a proud Veteran. I am honest in my tax return. I do not participate in criminal/illegal activities. I have been scared of the unknown and startled by surprise, but I have never before experienced fear. I have faced overwhelming odds in which failure would have cost my life; however, I am still here because I had no fear. I have no fear of anything that bleeds. Why do I fear my government? |
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MJZZZ
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 08/16/2006 : 06:41:00
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| I also had my new Kimber Ultra CDP in for repair, it seems they have a whole lot of new guns with the same problems. I have not been to the range to test the repair, but I hope they fixed it. They reamed and polished the barrel, adjusted the extractor, polished the breech face. I have my fingers crossed as this was going to be my carry gun, but only if it straightens up. Mike |
From my cold, dead hands.
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Nathan
Big Sky Guy
USA
21544 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2006 : 11:47:51
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| howdy mike, welcome to the forum. im looking at another kimber as well, and hoping for the best if i get it. |
Nathan In Montana, carrying a Gen4 Glock 19 loaded with Federal 147 grain +P JHPs carried in a Galco King Tuk thats worn on a Wilderness Instructor's belt.
NRA Certified Instructor, Rifle, Shotgun and Pistol
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clloydm
Starting Member
USA
4 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2011 : 22:29:48
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| Name and price have never made a pistol. Quality workmanship is a culture, if you out pace your capacity you hire folks who don't have a buy into the culture and don't do the work that you would expect. Output is king. Ask Beretta. |
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kingcrabbercurrry
Junior Member
USA
445 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2011 : 23:16:52
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Holy necropost, Batman! 
Kimbers are all style and no substance. It's a shame so many have to learn this the hard way. |
"When you signed on to carry that blaster, your world changed. This is about mindset, and regardless what certain groups may think, not every one should have a gun. Or a car. Or children. Or oxygen. It is not a part time thing. It is a commitment to a lifestyle and to a culture." - Pat Rogers |
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gixxerboy
Senior Member
USA
1404 Posts |
Posted - 02/09/2011 : 08:11:20
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| I said it before and I will say it again. I have THREE kimbers and not one malfunction at all. Guess I'm just lucky like that. |
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adrstout
Average Member
USA
909 Posts |
Posted - 02/09/2011 : 08:14:53
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| Might as well pick it up if you liked it that much. Should damn well work now. Good looking piece, for sure. |
Adam in Indiana
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kingcrabbercurrry
Junior Member
USA
445 Posts |
Posted - 02/09/2011 : 09:17:19
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Originally posted by gixxerboy
I said it before and I will say it again. I have THREE kimbers and not one malfunction at all. Guess I'm just lucky like that.
How many rounds through them? |
"When you signed on to carry that blaster, your world changed. This is about mindset, and regardless what certain groups may think, not every one should have a gun. Or a car. Or children. Or oxygen. It is not a part time thing. It is a commitment to a lifestyle and to a culture." - Pat Rogers |
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wranglerjeepguy
Junior Member
187 Posts |
Posted - 02/09/2011 : 14:48:02
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| my father has the grand raptor II....its a sweet shooting firearm, but he doesent have alot of rounds through it yet either....hope yours was a freak. |
for a righteous man may fall seven times and rise again, but the wicked shall fall by calamity (proverbs 24:16) |
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gixxerboy
Senior Member
USA
1404 Posts |
Posted - 02/09/2011 : 15:07:42
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| Stainless II has around 3000 plus custom work after 2000. CdpII pro only around 1000. Pro tle has 1000 plus what ever the previous owner put threw it. The way it looked when I got it I would guess less then 1000. They have been flawless for me. I will also note that I have never used the stock kimber mags in any of them. Wilson 47d is what I use. |
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"Guns don't kill people, people kill people. That's why I don't keep people in my house!" -Kevin N- |
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DeltaBravo
Junior Member
USA
231 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2011 : 17:31:41
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Nathan,
I bought a kimber pro carry last summer. The store I bought it from told me that I WILL have problems in the first 1000 rounds. kimbers are TIGHT from the factory. Esp the chambers. They need lots of rounds to loosen them up. Also my erratic brass ejection was caused by a "clocking" extractor that was loose and had to be tightened down. I too love the feel of the pro series and am glad I stuck with mine. Another thing was to buy a stiffer spring from wolf springs. It is made specifically for 4in kimbers. This helped with returning to battery. |
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"The soldier who has died due to the failure of his officer is a crime before God. So study hard, young Lieutenant. Prepare yourself well. Burn the midnight oil so that in your old age you will not look down at your hands to find his blood red upon them."
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1canvas
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 02/11/2011 : 06:45:29
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| i looked at kimbers before i bought my glocks. in doing my research on the kimbers it seemed it was a roll of the dice after you put your money down whether you got a lemon or a good gun. i'm not willing to take that gamble but the company stays in business cause many do. |
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indgramp
Starting Member
USA
40 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2011 : 09:16:35
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| I have a Kimber Stainless II. It had approx. 150 rounds before the intermittent feed/ejection problems stopped. I now have over 500 rounds with various ammo and no problems. |
Carry .45 Kimber, G36, G26 and/or Taurus 85, Taurus 817, or S&W 360 |
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1canvas
Starting Member
USA
15 Posts |
Posted - 02/13/2011 : 19:48:40
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Originally posted by indgramp
I have a Kimber Stainless II. It had approx. 150 rounds before the intermittent feed/ejection problems stopped. I now have over 500 rounds with various ammo and no problems.
that is to be expected with breaking in a 1911. |
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strider72
Average Member
USA
695 Posts |
Posted - 02/14/2011 : 06:00:37
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| I've loved Kimbers for years but have to question this issues... of course I have heard of multiple issues in brand-new overpriced Wilson Combat and other high-end 1911s. Makes me love my Glocks more. It's always been a general rule. You get a new 1911 and send it to a good smith to make it work. |
Glock 19/FEG HiPower/Keltec P32/NAA .22Mag for me...til I can get my 870 or Marlin 336 of course.
WOLVERINES!!
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KIMBERHAPPY
New Member
76 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2011 : 12:35:57
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| I have a Kimber Eclipse. Had it for 5 years. It had it's problems until I sent it back to the factory. Now with the factory repairs and Wilson Combat magazines, it's very reliable. |
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