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zonker1986
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Posted - 08/04/2009 :  20:20:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
people laugh at me for wearing my Glock while working out.....doesn't sound so silly, now does it?


Report: 4 dead in Pittsburgh-area shooting
BRIDGEVILLE, Pa. – A Pittsburgh television station says a shooting at a suburban health club has left four people dead, including the shooter.

KDKA reports the killings were at the L.A. Fitness Center in Bridgeville, a community of about 5,000 residents not far from downtown Pittsburgh and the Pittsburgh International Airport.

Allegheny County police tell The Associated Press a person called them Tuesday evening and said someone was shooting inside.

A witness tells the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette newspaper she was in an exercise class when a man came in a back door and started shooting. Ashley Ogordowski says a friend of hers was among the wounded.

Gym member Lauren Dooley tells the Post-Gazette she heard 12 to 15 shots.

Perry Calabro was playing racquetball inside. He says when the shooting began "everybody started running."


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DaddyO16
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Posted - 08/04/2009 :  20:45:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Who cares if they laugh - screw'em.

How do you carry when you're working out?
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pinkhamr
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Posted - 08/04/2009 :  21:39:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are waaay too many weirdo's out there these days ....



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Ohio9
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Posted - 08/05/2009 :  11:28:11  Show Profile  Send Ohio9 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DaddyO16
How do you carry when you're working out?



The gym is currently the one place where I don't carry. I just havn't found a practical way to do so, and the risk of being "made" is a lot higher there. When I'm running outside, I carry with a bellyband holster, but that's easier because I'm not in such close proximity to so many people, as in a gym. At gym, my pistol stays locked in a locker until my workout is done.

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zonker1986
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Posted - 08/05/2009 :  11:35:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DaddyO16

Who cares if they laugh - screw'em.

How do you carry when you're working out?



An official Richard Simmons fanny pack.

Seriously, I carry a Glock 19 in a very simple waist pack with my cell phone and I-pod attached to the belt. Also wear shorts with deep pockets and ususally carry either a Keltec PF-9 or 3AT .380 in the pocket. No one every gives my waist pack a second look and have been carrying my G19 to the gym since I got my license back in 2006.
My gym has a lot of "social drug dealers", and I see too much "stuff" happen every time I attend. Pay attention and don't zone out like everyone does when working out.
I was a member of LA Fitness in South Orlando until they started holding "Basset Ball" tournaments and the place turned into "ghetto gym". I left for a nicer place and its going south very quickly as well.

People need to wake up and realize that guys like George Sodini are everywhere today....lets be ready if our time to act comes.


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DaddyO16
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Posted - 08/05/2009 :  12:00:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I told my wife about you carrying to the gym, and she said "you mean he carries to the gym?" like that was really strange. Then I read the news story to her. All of a sudden she didn't think it so strange.

She knows that I carry everywhere except work, and with shootings happening in so many different public places, she's starting to see why and that it can happen anywhere, anytime, and always with no warning. When I first started carrying to church, she thought it was a little excessive, until she found out that there are several others who do so. Hearing accounts of gunmen entering houses of worship and having a little target practice got her attention.
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DIAMOND
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Posted - 08/05/2009 :  18:37:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would just use a simple "fanny pack" to carry at a gym.

Hey, why do I get my ccf account locked for mentioning some great information against a .38O and others here can say they carry one and nothing is said? No fare.

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zonker1986
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Posted - 08/05/2009 :  19:43:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DIAMOND

I would just use a simple "fanny pack" to carry at a gym.

Hey, why do I get my ccf account locked for mentioning some great information against a .38O and others here can say they carry one and nothing is said? No fare.



as a BUG only. The line before that stated that I carry a Glock 19 9mm as a primary weapon with the Keltec only as a back-up. Only time I'm not armed with two 9mm's is when I am working out at the gym. The Keltec 3AT was one of my very first pistols I purchased three years ago after I got my license and I have formed an emotional attachment with it. Rather than leave it at home in the safe or sell it, I just pop it in the pocket and go....but it never rides alone.


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i12flytoday
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Posted - 08/05/2009 :  20:02:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ohio9

quote:
Originally posted by DaddyO16
How do you carry when you're working out?



The gym is currently the one place where I don't carry. I just havn't found a practical way to do so, and the risk of being "made" is a lot higher there. When I'm running outside, I carry with a bellyband holster, but that's easier because I'm not in such close proximity to so many people, as in a gym. At gym, my pistol stays locked in a locker until my workout is done.



I used to do the same, but then I decided in the long run is was worth it to build a gym in my house. So... out went the pool table and in came the equipment and 37" LCD. :) Now I make myself a deal, I have to be working out or on my elliptical for cardio or no TV.

A government that is big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take everything you have away.

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Heather
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Posted - 08/05/2009 :  21:04:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zonker1986

quote:
Originally posted by DaddyO16

Who cares if they laugh - screw'em.

How do you carry when you're working out?



An official Richard Simmons fanny pack.



Me & you with the damn Richard Simmons fanny pack....LOL!

It's been about 7 months since I originally posted this pic....
So some of you regulars get a 2nd viewing....HA HA!

Jeff, my friend, this is for you!


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ridurall
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Posted - 08/05/2009 :  22:48:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where is that eye wash when you need it.

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zonker1986
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Posted - 08/05/2009 :  23:08:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry, Heather, he's doing it wrong...this is the way its done.



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Heather
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Posted - 08/05/2009 :  23:32:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ha ha! I couldn't resist. It was too easy.
Your pic less traumatic.

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i12flytoday
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Posted - 08/06/2009 :  00:01:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm going to puke!!!

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DIAMOND
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Posted - 08/06/2009 :  04:51:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zonker1986

quote:
Originally posted by DIAMOND

I would just use a simple "fanny pack" to carry at a gym.

Hey, why do I get my ccf account locked for mentioning some great information against a .38O and others here can say they carry one and nothing is said? No fare.



as a BUG only. The line before that stated that I carry a Glock 19 9mm as a primary weapon with the Keltec only as a back-up. Only time I'm not armed with two 9mm's is when I am working out at the gym. The Keltec 3AT was one of my very first pistols I purchased three years ago after I got my license and I have formed an emotional attachment with it. Rather than leave it at home in the safe or sell it, I just pop it in the pocket and go....but it never rides alone.

I know. I read your whole post. Just making an observation.

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zonker1986
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Posted - 08/06/2009 :  08:27:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DIAMOND

I know. I read your whole post. Just making an observation.



I expected a lightning bolt to crash my computer when I wrote it, too, but nothing happened. I think the Mods are more concerned with posts concerning mouse gun as primary carry which is strictly VERBOTEN. As long as you are packing a service caliber as primary, I think we probably are ok to with a smaller gun as a BUG.

Hah!! Still no lightning bolt.


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Ohio9
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Posted - 08/06/2009 :  19:48:09  Show Profile  Send Ohio9 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Now it's been reported the shooter had a CCW permit, as if that had any effect whatsoever on his actions......

Sigh, more fodder for the gun banners.

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ModernGunner
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Posted - 08/06/2009 :  20:27:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zonker1986

I expected a lightning bolt to crash my computer when I wrote it, too, but nothing happened. I think the Mods are more concerned with posts concerning mouse gun as primary carry which is strictly VERBOTEN. As long as you are packing a service caliber as primary, I think we probably are ok to with a smaller gun as a BUG.
The whole "verboten" thing is grade-schoolish, IMO, sorry.

Personally, I've known more than one cat carrying something like the "verboten" three-eight-zero that CAN shoot as opposed to many yabos packing magnums, .50 AE's, "hyper-calibers", etc. that couldn't hit a bull in the a$$ with a bassfiddle.

LOL, I used to pay for my shooting fees, practice ammo and targets shooting "against" LEO's at the local range years before I became one. $5 - $10 bet per target. Heck, I'd even use THEIR weapon, LOL.

Shooting's shooting...
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zonker1986
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Posted - 08/06/2009 :  21:36:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ohio9

Now it's been reported the shooter had a CCW permit, as if that had any effect whatsoever on his actions......

Sigh, more fodder for the gun banners.



oh, that's just Dandy.


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zonker1986
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Posted - 08/06/2009 :  22:21:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ModernGunner
The whole "verboten" thing is grade-schoolish, IMO, sorry.




Probably not if you are Nathans attorney.

Guy comes to this forum and reads about someone carrying a mouse gun....guy buys said mouse gun and eventually has to use it in a self defense situation. Mouse gun does not put BG down after shooting BG 10 times. BG proceeds to shoot Good guy maiming him for life, even after taking 10 rounds of mousegun caliber. Good guys attorney sues Concealed Carry Forum and Nathan Collier for a gazillion dollars due to gross negligence for disseminating false or misleading information concerning the effectiveness of a mouse gun caliber even after the FBI penetration tests had proven them to be substandard for self defense. This false or misleading information which attorneys client learned on CCF directly lead to the attorney's client being maimed for life....and is now seeking 25 million dollars in damages from CCF and Nathan Collier the owner. Sound far fetched? Not a damned bit in the legal environment we are in today.




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FishingBack
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Posted - 08/07/2009 :  07:58:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ohio9

Now it's been reported the shooter had a CCW permit, as if that had any effect whatsoever on his actions......

Sigh, more fodder for the gun banners.



Aw crapola. As it if wasn't bad enough of a situation.

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DaddyO16
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Posted - 08/07/2009 :  08:02:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ohio9

Now it's been reported the shooter had a CCW permit, as if that had any effect whatsoever on his actions......

Sigh, more fodder for the gun banners.



As if that made a difference. He would've done it anyway, permit or no permit.
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DaddyO16
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Posted - 08/07/2009 :  08:08:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zonker1986

Probably not if you are Nathans attorney.

Guy comes to this forum and reads about someone carrying a mouse gun....guy buys said mouse gun and eventually has to use it in a self defense situation. Mouse gun does not put BG down after shooting BG 10 times. BG proceeds to shoot Good guy maiming him for life, even after taking 10 rounds of mousegun caliber. Good guys attorney sues Concealed Carry Forum and Nathan Collier for a gazillion dollars due to gross negligence for disseminating false or misleading information concerning the effectiveness of a mouse gun caliber even after the FBI penetration tests had proven them to be substandard for self defense. This false or misleading information which attorneys client learned on CCF directly lead to the attorney's client being maimed for life....and is now seeking 25 million dollars in damages from CCF and Nathan Collier the owner. Sound far fetched? Not a damned bit in the legal environment we are in today.



I agree with this, but I think it comes primarily from Nathan's concern for others and his desire to see them have the very best chance at survival in a SD situation. Yes, you have to cover your legal bases, but I don't think that's why he doesn't allow MG discussions.

I know he and others convinced me. Maybe I'm just too easy...
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zonker1986
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Posted - 08/07/2009 :  10:25:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DaddyO16

I agree with this, but I think it comes primarily from Nathan's concern for others and his desire to see them have the very best chance at survival in a SD situation. Yes, you have to cover your legal bases, but I don't think that's why he doesn't allow MG discussions.

I know he and others convinced me. Maybe I'm just too easy...



I agree. Nathan truly cares for the well being of the members here...his attorney probably does not.

Yes, I too am a CCF Muse Gewehren convert....didn't take much arm twisting though since I ususally carried my Glock, but there were a lot of occasions that the little Keltec was the only thing I carried because....(sigh)...it was convenient. (heard that one before, eh).


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Ohio9
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Posted - 08/07/2009 :  18:13:58  Show Profile  Send Ohio9 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DaddyO16

quote:
Originally posted by Ohio9

Now it's been reported the shooter had a CCW permit, as if that had any effect whatsoever on his actions......

Sigh, more fodder for the gun banners.



As if that made a difference. He would've done it anyway, permit or no permit.



Of course, but the gun banners won't acknowledge that. That would require them to be willing to use facts and to have an IQ that's above negative numbers.

Since they have no facts or evidence to support banning CCW, pointing to the tiny number of CCW holders who commit murder as if not having a CCW permit would have made the killings harder is all they can do.

quote:
Originally posted by FishingBack

quote:
Originally posted by Ohio9

Now it's been reported the shooter had a CCW permit, as if that had any effect whatsoever on his actions......

Sigh, more fodder for the gun banners.



Aw crapola. As it if wasn't bad enough of a situation.



It gets worse. The killer bought a glock magazine from the same gun dealer who sold a gun to the VT killer and some parts to the shooter at NIU

http://www.wpxi.com/news/20291699/detail.html

Small world, huh.

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zonker1986
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Posted - 08/07/2009 :  22:59:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh, NOOOOOOO.

I've bought a ton of stuff off of www.topglock.com, too.
Does this mean I'm going to go run amuck and starting shooting innocent people??? Good Lord, the guy bought a Glock magazine and a mag loader from this site.....why does the media make a point of such drivel? My fear is that Glocks are being used by the nut jobs out there like this guy, and the antis will push for a ban of all Glocks....that evil black plastic pistol that can go undetected by airport security. Also afraid that this is just more ammunition to ban all internet sales of guns and related goods.
Its Friday night and I'm just about all out of "dumbass antidote". Long week.


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