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Posted - 12/03/2009 :  22:19:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I guess it will be for sale soon and I think this would make a great first pistol for my son that will be 10 in January. He has shot my M&P 45 full size a few times, but has shot my CZ 75BD a little more. He does real well with the CZ but has trouble working the slide on either one. Something like this wold be a nice full size,cheap plinker for him to learn on until hes ready for me to buy him a service caliber weapon.


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Posted - 12/03/2009 :  22:39:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow. 30 rounds? And it's 22 mag instead of LR so it's a little more sting than normal. It'd be fun to shoot. MSRP of around $425, so I could probably get it at my local shop for $350. I don't know if I could pay more than $320 for a Kel Tec. Hell, a PF9 at my local shop is only $275 out the door.

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Mark W.
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Posted - 12/04/2009 :  05:13:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks like a clone of the FN 5.7 pistol.

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Posted - 12/04/2009 :  05:21:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm almost tempted to say that 30 rounds of 22 Mag would make a sweet little BUG but I don't want to incur any wrath. other than to account for a mag malfunction, would you even need a spare mag for ammo?

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Posted - 12/04/2009 :  05:46:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
22 mag is not cheap to shoot. My kids first pistol was a Ruger 22/45 and he moved very easily and quickly to a 9 mm 1911. 9mm 1911s have 10 or 12 pound recoil springs and are very easy to cycle.

Sorry if you know this trick already, but when I work with women or kids that have problems cycling an auto, I tell them to:

"c" clamp (4 fingers on the right side of the gun, palm on left side) thier left hand on the slide behind the ejection port and hold the slide in place with their left hand by "making a muscle" with their left arm. Then use the palm of their right hand to drive the gun forward by pushing from the shoulder and extending thier arm from the elbow. When the the gun hits the stop, switch to holding the gun with the right hand and just release the slide with the left hand. Works like a charm!

For some reason it takes less strenght then to try to hold the gun in place with the right hand and pull the slide back and release it. I think it is because you are using major muscle groups this way.

I hope this may be of help to your son no matter what you get him.

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Posted - 12/04/2009 :  12:01:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, I wouldn't mind having one of those(if they work) Not for a defensive gun, of course, but I have been looking at .22 pistols lately. This thing is definately neat. Most .22 pistols no matter the size only hold 10 rounds WTF? I know they can do better.

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woody d
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Posted - 12/04/2009 :  16:25:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i been looking for another .22 mag to justify bulking up on ammo. this might be just the gun

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Posted - 12/04/2009 :  16:55:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thumbs down to all kel tecs. JMHO

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Advanced Member

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Posted - 12/05/2009 :  00:05:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
George Kellgren, the main guy at Keltec designed the Grendel P30 that also held 30 rounds of 22 WMR. Production ceased with the Assault Weapons Ban of 1994. Ugly as sin, but they were a blast to shoot. Glad to see George is resurrecting the P30 with the PMR30.
30 rounds of .22 Magnum as fast as you can pull the trigger?? Mousegun or Assault pistol?

Grendel P30
Type Semi-automatic pistol
Place of origin USA
Production history
Designer George Kellgren
Manufacturer Grendel
Produced 19901994
Weight 21 ounces (5" barrel model)
Length 8.5" (5" barrel model)
Barrel length 5" or 8"

Cartridge .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire
Feed system 30 round detachable box magazine
The Grendel P30 is a semi-automatic pistol chambered in .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire. Designed by George Kellgren, it uses a 30-round Zytel magazine and was available with a 5 or 8 inch barrel. A carbine version (R-31) was also offered. It was manufactured from 1990 to 1994.

The P-30 uses a straight blow-back operation, with the assistance of a fluted chamber to reduce case friction during extracti

Grendel P30....I could have bought one for $175 in 1993...they go for over $500 on Gunbroker today.

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Average Member

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Posted - 12/07/2009 :  09:38:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So you can get a FN 5.7 clone and shoot it cheaper too... what the hell, get me one.

Glock 19/FEG HiPower/Keltec P32/NAA .22Mag for me...til I can get my 870 or Marlin 336 of course.


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Average Member

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Posted - 12/07/2009 :  17:44:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by JCL

I'm almost tempted to say that 30 rounds of 22 Mag would make a sweet little BUG but I don't want to incur any wrath. other than to account for a mag malfunction, would you even need a spare mag for ammo?

ROFL...So what you mean is that, if you so stated you can feel an imminant pit bull attack? lol...thats funny there...

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Posted - 12/07/2009 :  18:18:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like it, not sure if I would spend as much on a 22mag as I can buy a good used Glock or even a snubbie for though

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