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bw210
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Posted - 02/25/2010 :  08:21:51  Show Profile  Click to see bw210's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
You guys & Gals need to check this link out.

http://ingunowners.com/forums/the_2nd_amendment/77630-colorado_sheriff_says_he_ll_undermine_gun_ban.html

The Colorado State University Board of Governors voted unanimously Tuesday to place students at both of its campuses in harm’s way with a sweeping weapons ban law-abiding citizens will obey and criminals will ignore.
Larimer County Sheriff James Alderden, outraged by the ban, told The Gazette’s opinion department he will undermine it in the interest of student safety.
CSU-Fort Collins Police Chief Wendy Rich-Goldsmith, a relative newcomer to the campus, supports the ban.
“I have told the CSU police chief I will not support this in any way,” Sheriff Alderden told The Gazette. “If anyone with one of my permits gets arrested for concealed carry at CSU, I will refuse to book that person into my jail. Furthermore, I will show up at court and testify on that person’s behalf, and I will do whatever I can to discourage a conviction. I will not be a party to this very poor decision.”

Here is the e-mail to sheriff dept where many have sent praise:

http://www.co.larimer.co.us/common/mailform.cfm?to=alderdja

"How a politician stands on the Second Amendment tells you how he or she views you as an individual... as a trustworthy and productive citizen, or as part of an unruly crowd that needs to be lorded, controlled, supervised, and taken care of." -- Former Rep. Suzanna Gratia Hupp (TX)

lincoln
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Posted - 02/25/2010 :  08:32:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
WOW! we need more of that!

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lincoln
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Posted - 02/25/2010 :  08:33:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
here's a link to the acticle for those interested: http://www.gazette.com/opinion/state-94668-gun-ban.html

"Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle."- Abraham Lincoln
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graceandtruth
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Posted - 02/25/2010 :  10:34:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Awesome.

Email of praise sent.

-G&T

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Nathan
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Posted - 02/25/2010 :  10:49:59  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
sheriffs have far more power than most are aware of. if you have a really good sheriff you are very fortunate, such as the people in ft. collins.


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kitop310
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Posted - 02/25/2010 :  11:03:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
E-mail of praise sent. CSU is only about 30 minutes north of my hometown in Colorado. I wish our Montgomery County Sheriff (I'm stationed in Montgomery, AL) would do the same. Maybe he will. Definitly worth another e-mail...

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OneGunCharlie
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Posted - 02/25/2010 :  11:54:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is an awesome professional high ranking LEO. He'd have my vote.

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bw210
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Posted - 02/25/2010 :  14:02:01  Show Profile  Click to see bw210's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Here is a first hand account of someone on another gun forum who knows the Sheriff personally. Pretty good if you ask me.

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Sheriff Jim is one fine human being, and not only because of his views on concealed carry. I would vote for him again. He also has an excellent sense of humor. A couple of years ago Fort Collins decided to not have Christmas displays on city property. The sheriff invited everyone out to the sheriff's office/jail to decorate a Christmas tree. He supplied coffee and doughnuts. Big turnout. This year he had a display for our Jewish brothers, and a corner with nothing in it for athiests. Then there was the time he auctioned off #007 CCW. When the bidding would slow down , he got it going again saying it was NOT a license to kill. We need more like him.

"How a politician stands on the Second Amendment tells you how he or she views you as an individual... as a trustworthy and productive citizen, or as part of an unruly crowd that needs to be lorded, controlled, supervised, and taken care of." -- Former Rep. Suzanna Gratia Hupp (TX)
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Joshua
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Posted - 02/25/2010 :  22:18:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If there is no actual law against carrying on campus, why would LE be involved anyway? (let me know what I'm missing)
If the school bans guns, but there is no actual law they only have the power to expel them.

A student at a Univerity near me was charged with carrying a concealed weapon without a permit and expelled from the school.
If he had a permit, there wouldn't have been any legal action against him.

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Nathan
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Posted - 02/25/2010 :  22:55:22  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
the liberals will probably launch an attack effort against that sheriff now like hege and sheriff joe.


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bw210
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Posted - 02/26/2010 :  07:38:24  Show Profile  Click to see bw210's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Nathan

the liberals will probably launch an attack effort against that sheriff now like hege and sheriff joe.



This is EXACTLY why these people need our outspoken and constant support. If more people in power( government position and LEO )stood up for what our founding fathers had envisioned for this Country, knowing that they WILL have our support, hopefully more & more will follow.

"How a politician stands on the Second Amendment tells you how he or she views you as an individual... as a trustworthy and productive citizen, or as part of an unruly crowd that needs to be lorded, controlled, supervised, and taken care of." -- Former Rep. Suzanna Gratia Hupp (TX)
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bw210
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Posted - 02/26/2010 :  07:49:21  Show Profile  Click to see bw210's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Another response from Sheriff Alderden:

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I may have already responded to some of you so if this is redundant, please forgive me. I have been overwhelmed with e-mails regarding my position on the CSU rule prohibiting students, faculty or staff from carrying anything on campus that may be used in self-defense; i.e. concealed handgun, mace, or stun gun. This is incredibly irresponsible.

I have received 170 e-mails from all corners and coasts of the United States supporting my position. I haven't had such a response since my Third Annual Politically Incorrect Christmas tree Decorating Party or the Balloon Boy incident. For those of you who haven't made the connection, yes, I'm the overweight bald Sheriff who was at the center of the Balloon Boy Hoax. I tried responding individually to your e-mails to express my appreciation for your kind words, but it soon became evident that I wasn't going to be able to. I do have a few other things on my plate. To each of you, please accept my humble appreciation for your support and encouragement.

By the way, I did get one negative e-mail. 170 to 1, and it wasn't from Dr. Frank, the CSU President.

Many of you have suggested that I run for higher office. I have said it before, but I don't think there is any higher office than that of Sheriff. It is an office that gives me the most direct contact with the people and the best opportunity to act rather autonomously to do the right thing. I only have to answer to the public, not the politicians. In any event, I'm about to wrap up a 38 year career and my 12th as Sheriff. I would love to hang around but Colorado enacted term limits several years ago to ensure that the most qualified and competent people can't remain in office too long.

Again, thank you for taking the time to write but my position really wasn't a difficult or courageous decision to make as some of you have implied. It was simply the right thing to do and in keeping with my sworn oath.

Jim Alderden
Larimer County Sheriff

"How a politician stands on the Second Amendment tells you how he or she views you as an individual... as a trustworthy and productive citizen, or as part of an unruly crowd that needs to be lorded, controlled, supervised, and taken care of." -- Former Rep. Suzanna Gratia Hupp (TX)
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Glock2386
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Posted - 03/01/2010 :  07:39:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a video from ABCNews for the ongoing Colorado Campus Carry article


http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/guns-safer-schools-9974189

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Radioflyer
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Posted - 08/24/2010 :  10:40:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kudos!

It is the responsibility of the individual NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT to protect and defend their family, themselves and their property.
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KeysGuy
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Posted - 08/24/2010 :  14:04:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Radioflyer

Kudos!



Since this thread began I believe CSU has backed down on their ban. I'm not sure why, but I suspect it had something to do with a threatened lawsuit which they were sure (by State law) to lose. The ban was pretty stupid in the first place, IMHO.

Keys Guy



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