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Nathan
Big Sky Guy

USA
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Posted - 05/03/2010 :  20:18:07  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage  Reply with Quote


despite how thick it is i really like my sig 229r, except for one problem: the trigger sucks ass! i sent it off today to sig to have the short trigger installed (enables smaller hands to be able to reach the long trigger better) and i also asked them to install the "short trigger reset" package while they had it. the mods were $200 + the $72 it cost me to ship the gun to them (freakin' ridiculous cost to ship a gun!). i dont understand why a sig can ship it back to me for $30 but it cost me $72 to ship it to them.

...anyway, im really looking forward to getting this one back. they told me to expect 2-4 weeks; i hope to have it back before my trip to NC.

a full review is pending. i never reviewed this pistol because i hate the trigger so badly, but its performance for me has been undeniable so it eventually won me over (the pistol overall, not the trigger). ill review it after i can actually reach the trigger.

Nathan In Montana, carrying a Gen4 Glock 19 loaded with Federal 147 grain +P JHPs carried in a Galco King Tuk thats worn on a Wilderness Instructor's belt.

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PKL
Advanced Member

USA
2915 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2010 :  06:22:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have the SRT on my 229 Elite. You will love it. I love my Sigs.

Living in California and still own lots of guns
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gixxerboy
Senior Member

USA
1404 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2010 :  11:44:28  Show Profile  Click to see gixxerboy's MSN Messenger address  Send gixxerboy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Why did you not wait until they release the e2 frame retrofit?


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nolt
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Posted - 05/04/2010 :  11:57:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hey nathan how did you ship it? what carrier etc?


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gixxerboy
Senior Member

USA
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Posted - 05/04/2010 :  12:01:20  Show Profile  Click to see gixxerboy's MSN Messenger address  Send gixxerboy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
And did you have to box up the case or just send it in the case it came in?


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Nathan
Big Sky Guy

USA
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Posted - 05/04/2010 :  12:22:48  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gixxerboy

Why did you not wait until they release the e2 frame retrofit?

i really like the hogue combat grip i have on the gun and never really cared for the OEM grips. if im able to reach the trigger the short trigger will be a perfect solution. UPS tracking shows it was delivered this morning and im struggling to not call them and ask if theyre done yet.

Nathan In Montana, carrying a Gen4 Glock 19 loaded with Federal 147 grain +P JHPs carried in a Galco King Tuk thats worn on a Wilderness Instructor's belt.

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Nathan
Big Sky Guy

USA
21559 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2010 :  12:23:13  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gixxerboy

And did you have to box up the case or just send it in the case it came in?
UPS put the OEM case in their overnight shipping box.

Nathan In Montana, carrying a Gen4 Glock 19 loaded with Federal 147 grain +P JHPs carried in a Galco King Tuk thats worn on a Wilderness Instructor's belt.

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Nathan
Big Sky Guy

USA
21559 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2010 :  12:23:28  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nolt

hey nathan how did you ship it? what carrier etc?

UPS. fed ex isnt any cheaper.

Nathan In Montana, carrying a Gen4 Glock 19 loaded with Federal 147 grain +P JHPs carried in a Galco King Tuk thats worn on a Wilderness Instructor's belt.

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gixxerboy
Senior Member

USA
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Posted - 05/04/2010 :  13:43:30  Show Profile  Click to see gixxerboy's MSN Messenger address  Send gixxerboy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
That sucks on the price for shipping, I am shipping my kimber out to the proshop in the morning and it's really going to hurt.


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nolt
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Posted - 05/04/2010 :  14:20:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan

quote:
Originally posted by nolt

hey nathan how did you ship it? what carrier etc?

UPS. fed ex isnt any cheaper.



the reason i ask (and this may not apply to you locally i dunno)...

is because when i shipped my razorback to springfield for the custom work the ladies at springfield (bless their souls) told me NOT to take it to a storefront shipping place but to actually go to the hub. 'go to the place where the trucks come and go' is actually what they said.

when i went there and told them i was shipping a handgun they let me ship it two day air (which actually got there overnite) from little rock to geneseo, IL for like 23 bucks.

the springfield ladies told me that it was a common misconception amount fedex and ups storefronts that company policy was 'only overnite' on handguns but that in actuality they could be two-day aired for cheaper.

my experience was consistent with that. maybe something to try in the future there in billings i dunno.


i hope they get the trigger hooked up for ya...


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ichiban
New Member

USA
63 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2010 :  15:16:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan

quote:
Originally posted by nolt

hey nathan how did you ship it? what carrier etc?

UPS. fed ex isnt any cheaper.



I have an FFL that will ship guns for me via USPS for cost. Just part of good customer service on his part.
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davewms
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USA
70 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2010 :  14:07:23  Show Profile  Send davewms a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Last time I shipped a gun, (G22 in original case), it was $18.

Glock 19/17/22, S&W Model 36, Colt Diamonback, Beretta 950B, Kel-Tec PF-9/P3AT.

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hkguy
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USA
2067 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2010 :  09:58:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
fedex is cheap for me :) maybe becausue i work of them

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gunslinger
Advanced Member

USA
2072 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2010 :  11:26:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan

quote:
Originally posted by gixxerboy

Why did you not wait until they release the e2 frame retrofit?

i really like the hogue combat grip i have on the gun and never really cared for the OEM grips. if im able to reach the trigger the short trigger will be a perfect solution. UPS tracking shows it was delivered this morning and im struggling to not call them and ask if theyre done yet.


Just don't get in a discussion about GSRs with them. You'll get it back with a .380 action installed...
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JDJ
Advanced Member

USA
2794 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2010 :  20:36:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know how you feel,
Sigs triggers are the sole reason that I don't own any of their products. With an average price of 750.00 then 272.00 for the trigger upgrade and shipping, I think I would rather get into a good 1911(since I don't own either yet).

Looking foward to your review though, it may change my mind.

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crewchief47
New Member

USA
55 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2010 :  09:12:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"SIG AWAY" sounds like bad guy repellent. I haven't seen a post as to
how that trigger change worked out. Did you get it back? I was
wandering if short trigger meant positioned closer to the grip?
Is there a link to pictures?
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Nathan
Big Sky Guy

USA
21559 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2010 :  10:15:21  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i dont yet have it back, but will certainly post all about it when i do finally get it back. the short trigger is basically a thinner trigger.




here is the standard 229. notice how thick the trigger is.



here is the "short trigger". its just a thinner trigger that makes it easier for shorter fingers to reach.

the short trigger reset is another issue. it has to do with where the trigger resets to prevent all the overtravel.

Nathan In Montana, carrying a Gen4 Glock 19 loaded with Federal 147 grain +P JHPs carried in a Galco King Tuk thats worn on a Wilderness Instructor's belt.

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dsims
Senior Member

USA
1191 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2010 :  11:25:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That thick trigger is nothin' a good ol' dremel tool can't take care of!

How much just for the smaller trigger?



It's better to have a gun on you and not need one, than to need one and not have one on you!
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Nathan
Big Sky Guy

USA
21559 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2010 :  13:21:37  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
the trigger itself is $35 but you pay to get it installed as well as shipping. getting the short trigger installed was just something i wanted to do while my 229 was there getting the short trigger reset installed.

btw, my 229 was delivered at home an hour ago. im looking forward to getting my hands on it! details will follow.

Nathan In Montana, carrying a Gen4 Glock 19 loaded with Federal 147 grain +P JHPs carried in a Galco King Tuk thats worn on a Wilderness Instructor's belt.

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dsims
Senior Member

USA
1191 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2010 :  13:46:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very cool. It will be interesting to see how it compares.

quote:
Originally posted by Nathan

the trigger itself is $35 but you pay to get it installed as well as shipping. getting the short trigger installed was just something i wanted to do while my 229 was there getting the short trigger reset installed.

btw, my 229 was delivered at home an hour ago. im looking forward to getting my hands on it! details will follow.




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Buck
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1041 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2010 :  13:57:13  Show Profile  Visit Buck's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gixxerboy

Why did you not wait until they release the e2 frame retrofit?



I recently held a P226 E2. Felt good!

I was going to post a link to the E2 on the Sig Sauer web site, but look what popped up!!!!!

I may seriously have to get one of these! Be sure to click on all 3 pics. I love the last one!

http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=7&productid=301

EDIT: Sorry guys... I just saw that Nathan previously had a post on this.

http://concealedcarryforum.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=22851


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crewchief47
New Member

USA
55 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2010 :  22:49:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the explanation and pics, I don't have that problem
with short fingers. My 229 is the best feeling and most accurate gun
I've got, it was one of those reconditioned ones in the red box when
I got it and I didn't know if it may have had a short trigger. The
trigger I really hate is the one on my 1911 mil spec. It's so short it
lands in the first joint on my finger and makes me pull my shots
low and left. I won't one like is on a loaded.
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pinkhamr
Advanced Member

USA
6075 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2010 :  23:09:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I hope that doesn't mean my 226 is junk .... LOL



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Tim
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Posted - 05/22/2010 :  14:39:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nathan, have you had a chance to shoot it? Just curious if you like it...
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Nathan
Big Sky Guy

USA
21559 Posts

Posted - 11/19/2010 :  09:52:38  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tim

Nathan, have you had a chance to shoot it? Just curious if you like it...
my apologies for not updating this thread. fact is, the new trigger is exactly what this gun needed. im able to reach the trigger with my finger now, which is good, but the huge difference lies in the "short trigger reset" modification that i had done. with the short trigger reset, the breaking point and the reset point are one in the same (compared to the original trigger where the reset point is way forward of the release point causing a lot of unnecessary trigger travel). shooting the short trigger reset and shooting a standard trigger, the difference really is night and day. im very pleased with my sig now and it has in fact, become my second most often carried handgun.

Nathan In Montana, carrying a Gen4 Glock 19 loaded with Federal 147 grain +P JHPs carried in a Galco King Tuk thats worn on a Wilderness Instructor's belt.

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LKline
Jew-Jitsu Master

USA
5029 Posts

Posted - 11/19/2010 :  10:04:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Second most carried right after your LCP, right?
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