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808Wes
Starting Member
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 Posted - 07/30/2010 : 02:35:16
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Who makes a 9mm carbine, that's affordable and reliable?
I'd like to buy one within the next 6 months.
Thanks in advance for any help you guys can throw my way.
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DaddyO16
Advanced Member
USA
4019 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2010 : 03:50:58
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Hi Point 995. Wouldn't be my first choice for home defense or SHTF, but it's loads of fun to shoot and I paid less than $200 for it. The new models are out now, but I think they're a little more expensive.
The Hi Point semi-autos are not good choices, but they make a decent carbine. Lifetime warranty, no matter if you are the original owner or not. No questions asked.
Also comes in .40 S&W.
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Barksdale123
Junior Member
108 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2010 : 03:54:07
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Kel Tec sub 2000
Price around $ 350.00 if you get one get the Glock magazine model.
Highpoint makes a real cheap $ 250+= 9mm carbine. Ruguer males a camp 9MM also but now you in the $ 500.00 range. |
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yankeejib
Average Member
USA
682 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2010 : 03:54:10
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Kel Tec Sub2000. I got to shoot one of these off a couple of weeks ago. 9mm, uses Glock mags (say, 33 rounds), was easy to shoot and pretty darn accurate out to 40 yards with basic sights. And then you fold it in half and stick it in your bag. I was going to post a gunbroker link, but for $350, I may just buy it instead. It sort of fits the bill for what I've been looking for, although certainly not as cool as a .357/.38 lever action rifle.
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WoodLark
Junior Member
USA
104 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2010 : 05:37:49
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| The biggest advantage I can see for the Keltec over the Hi-Point is that you can get it to use the same magazine as your favorite pistol (provided your favorite is Glock, Beretta or S&W). The Hi-Point uses its own proprietary magazines which, AFAIK are not even interchangeable with their own pistols. You might also want to look around for a Marlin Camp Rifle (they use S&W 5900 series magazines). I picked up a nice one about a year ago for less than $200. |
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Barksdale123
Junior Member
108 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2010 : 05:52:34
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Originally posted by WoodLark
The biggest advantage I can see for the Keltec over the Hi-Point is that you can get it to use the same magazine as your favorite pistol (provided your favorite is Glock, Beretta or S&W). The Hi-Point uses its own proprietary magazines which, AFAIK are not even interchangeable with their own pistols. You might also want to look around for a Marlin Camp Rifle (they use S&W 5900 series magazines). I picked up a nice one about a year ago for less than $200.
Woodlark, you can make a quick $ 50.00 on than Marlin. I'll send ypou my favorite FFL dealer. |
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yankeejib
Average Member
USA
682 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2010 : 08:33:29
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Originally posted by yankeejib
Kel Tec Sub2000. I got to shoot one of these off a couple of weeks ago. 9mm, uses Glock mags (say, 33 rounds), was easy to shoot and pretty darn accurate out to 40 yards with basic sights. And then you fold it in half and stick it in your bag. I was going to post a gunbroker link, but for $350, I may just buy it instead. It sort of fits the bill for what I've been looking for, although certainly not as cool as a .357/.38 lever action rifle.
Well, I couldn't resist. I bought it last night. I had some mad money left over from vacation anyway, and the price was right. I read some good reviews (good reviews always have the good, the bad, and the ugly). I'll post my own reviews when I get it and work it up.
I already know at least three improvements I'll be making (fabricate a new aluminum trigger, trigger job, and maybe some sort of night sights). I had wanted a small light SD/HD rifle chambered in something I already shoot and 9mm works just fine since I have at least a couple thousand rounds scattered around the house. The bonus is I also picked up one 10, two 17, and one 33 round Glock factory mags with the rifle. With my other 9mm Glock mags, I'm in the neighborhood of 135 loaded rounds on my belt if the zombies arrive unannounced. And my G26 will be so happy with 8 inches of double stack ammo hanging out the bottom, although I always thought that looked pretty damn dumb. Now I'm thinking G26 full auto.....
This doesn't mean, however, I'm out of the market for my lever rifle. It'll just have to wait till the next cycle of "Gun of The Month" club.
Pinkhamr, have you ever worked up a Kel Tec Sub2000? LOL. Not nearly as many possibilities as The 10/22, but...... |
Sincerely,
Professor Stu Padasol
"Doing what others find difficult is talent. Doing what others find impossible is genius."
"Why be difficult when with a little more effort, you can be entirely impossible."
I carry a gun because I can't throw a rock 1250 feet per second.
God did not make create all men equal, Sam Colt did.
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zonker1986
Advanced Member
USA
6016 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2010 : 09:12:39
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I have a Sub 2000 that accepts Smith & Wesson 59 series mags and its a fun little carbine. Unfortunately, it will only accept FACTORY Smith & Wesson magazines, and none of the MecGar 20 and 30 rounders I have for my Smith & Wesson 910 will work in the Keltec.
I bought mine back in the zerO induced gun buying frenzy,(all they had and was thrilled to get it) and if I had it to do over, I'd definitely wait and try to get one that accepts Glock 9mm mags.
I carry my Sub 2000 in my vehicle in a laptop computer case.....cool how it folds up into such a small package. |
 
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dsims
Senior Member
USA
1175 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2010 : 09:14:15
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If you have a glock you could use one of these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqeUDC-c79k
My gunsmith has them in stock and they sold like hot cakes at the last gun show
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Originally posted by 808Wes
Who makes a 9mm carbine, that's affordable and reliable?
I'd like to buy one within the next 6 months.
Thanks in advance for any help you guys can throw my way.
Wes.
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DaddyO16
Advanced Member
USA
4019 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2010 : 09:22:08
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Originally posted by dsims
If you have a glock you could use one of these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqeUDC-c79k
My gunsmith has them in stock and they sold like hot cakes at the last gun show
That is about the COOLEST thing I've ever seen!! |
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dsims
Senior Member
USA
1175 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2010 : 09:39:06
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Let me know if you want one. I will see if I can get a discount for forum members.
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Originally posted by DaddyO16
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Originally posted by dsims
If you have a glock you could use one of these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqeUDC-c79k
My gunsmith has them in stock and they sold like hot cakes at the last gun show
That is about the COOLEST thing I've ever seen!!
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zonker1986
Advanced Member
USA
6016 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2010 : 09:44:02
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| well, I got da Glock....gotta link to where we can get these? |
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FFemt5287
Baron of Obscure Calibers
USA
3103 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2010 : 09:54:24
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Originally posted by dsims
If you have a glock you could use one of these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqeUDC-c79k
My gunsmith has them in stock and they sold like hot cakes at the last gun show
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Originally posted by 808Wes
Who makes a 9mm carbine, that's affordable and reliable?
I'd like to buy one within the next 6 months.
Thanks in advance for any help you guys can throw my way.
Wes.
No SBR issues with this?? |
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medic68
Master of Mojo
3377 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2010 : 10:16:08
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Olympic, Rock River, Bushmaster, Colt all make AR's in a 9MM platform. Here's one I used to own but it disappeared right after the election This would be my only choice for the caliber........
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DeltaBravo
Junior Member
USA
139 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2010 : 10:37:07
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You could purchase a Beretta PX4 in 9mm then purchase the CX4 carbine. It uses the same mags as the handguns. Some of the LEOs in St Louis have these in their patrol units.
http://www.berettausa.com/products/cx4-storm/ |
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dsims
Senior Member
USA
1175 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2010 : 12:17:33
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They have them online for $475 bare bones https://shopquestar.com/shopping65/shopexd.asp?id=1253&bc=no.
I just spoke to my GS and he said the 'just drop it in' is not really accurate advertising. He outfits each one to fit by Glock model. Also, the ATF is getting ready to ban these since they basically make your Glock an SBR.
He will sell to members here for $435. That price includes fitting for your Glock, an ambi sling attachment ($39.99 value) and a custom fitted Uncle Mikes bag shipped to your door.
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Originally posted by zonker1986
well, I got da Glock....gotta link to where we can get these?
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dsims
Senior Member
USA
1175 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2010 : 12:19:00
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Not yet, but VERY soon. So get em while you can!
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Originally posted by FFemt5287
No SBR issues with this??
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adrstout
Junior Member
USA
151 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2010 : 12:57:42
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| I have one of the new hi point 995ts that is a hoot to shoot. Wouldn't touch one of their handguns but this thing has been flawless for nearly 1000 rds. Accuracy is not bad but not amazing either. I can hit 16oz styrofoam coffee cups at 75yds with relative ease. Like others have said, not the best shtf weapon but if I had to use it, I wouldn't hesitate. |
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WoodLark
Junior Member
USA
104 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2010 : 13:53:41
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Originally posted by Barksdale123
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Originally posted by WoodLark
The biggest advantage I can see for the Keltec over the Hi-Point is that you can get it to use the same magazine as your favorite pistol (provided your favorite is Glock, Beretta or S&W). The Hi-Point uses its own proprietary magazines which, AFAIK are not even interchangeable with their own pistols. You might also want to look around for a Marlin Camp Rifle (they use S&W 5900 series magazines). I picked up a nice one about a year ago for less than $200.
Woodlark, you can make a quick $ 50.00 on than Marlin. I'll send ypou my favorite FFL dealer.
Why would I want to sell it? My handguns all use the same magazines (Keltec P11, 6906, 5903). I put a new recoil buffer in it and have myself a great little rifle (did I mention that it came with a scope?).
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DIAMOND
Senior Member
USA
1894 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2010 : 05:26:16
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Mark W.
Average Member
USA
975 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2010 : 07:04:45
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| In their ad they say "ALL ATF rules apply" and ATF ruled it a short barreled rifle. If you get caught without the proper paper work I would think you'd get in trouble. |
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dsims
Senior Member
USA
1175 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2010 : 07:22:15
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They are legal to own now, on that I have no doubt. I have a SBR with a 10.5" barrel that the same gunsmith built for me. When he handed it to me prior to me receiving my stamp it had a six inch flash suppressor welded onto the barrel (see below). He would never put anyone at risk. The ATF is moving to stop the importation, not ban the ownership.
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Originally posted by Mark W.
In their ad they say "ALL ATF rules apply" and ATF ruled it a short barreled rifle. If you get caught without the proper paper work I would think you'd get in trouble.
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btfla
New Member
99 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2010 : 08:43:18
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not sure any more the gun laws change so much and so fast. but the way i see to glock conversion thing.
if you put the pistol in it you just made a un-regester sbr.
but you should be able to own the unit leagly as long as you dont put the pistol in it.
no frame no gun.
so unless you get it regester as a sbr to stay leagle you have a nice conversion unit that you cant use.
from my understnading you cant put a stock on a handgung except for a few C@R that have an exeption |
please exquse my spelling and typeing iam dyslexic |
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dsims
Senior Member
USA
1175 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2010 : 10:23:46
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I will contact my gunsmith on Monday to get clarification on the loop hole...
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Originally posted by btfla
not sure any more the gun laws change so much and so fast. but the way i see to glock conversion thing.
if you put the pistol in it you just made a un-regester sbr.
but you should be able to own the unit leagly as long as you dont put the pistol in it.
no frame no gun.
so unless you get it regester as a sbr to stay leagle you have a nice conversion unit that you cant use.
from my understnading you cant put a stock on a handgung except for a few C@R that have an exeption
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dsims
Senior Member
USA
1175 Posts |
Posted - 08/03/2010 : 14:22:31
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I spoke with my gunsmith and got some clarification. You can buy the Roni now, take it home, but once you place your Glock inside the Roni it is an SBR. You cant take your Glock out and carry it without violating any SBR laws since unlike similar units it is not married/pinned. He sold his last 10 and has 10 more coming from Israel next week, after that he will not be able to import them. So if you want one and you're willing to apply for an SBR stamp buy one fast before they are no longer available.
Not trying to make any sales here, just passing along info... |
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btfla
New Member
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Posted - 08/03/2010 : 15:26:33
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yep.
thats what i thought it would be. thanks for clearing that up. |
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