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AFP22811
Starting Member
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 Posted - 07/05/2012 : 20:48:46
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| pretty soon i'd like to get a 1911 commander. not sure if i'll carry with it or not yet, but even if i dont, i just love that gun. problem is, im not sure who makes a good one these days (im unfamiliar with the 1911 game, in case you couldnt tell haha). i'm not looking for the "best" 1911, cuz i know that will just open up a can of worms. i'm just looking for recommendations. price range = under 1,000. and i do know enough about 1911's to know that kimbers are over rated |
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rambosky
New Member
USA
84 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 07:06:54
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| I have a new Colt Commander Wiley Clapp TALO. I love it and carry it most of the time. |
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1813Anschutz
Advanced Member
USA
2292 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 07:39:19
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Colt's are excellent. Were I to be buying a Commander size 1911, I would take a serious look at the Magnum Research as well as the Springfield Armory's.
Randy |
"The more I shoot,the LUCKIER I seem to get!" |
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Smurf
Senior Member
USA
1102 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 07:57:06
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| I have three Magnum Research pistols, two Baby Eagles, they are a year apart and a world apart and a 44 mag. I like all three. The 44 mag takes a stiff load to work the bolt. I would like to look at their 1911s. Unless their quality has taken a dip in the past 20 yrs, they should be good. |
Fight Crime-SHOOT BACK
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DaddyO16
Advanced Member
USA
6009 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 09:23:32
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| Springfield Armory. I love my Loaded Champion. |
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deadguy
I see dead people
7298 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 10:26:38
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as mentioned and then some: Springfield, Colt, STI, all in your budget.
A bit over budget would be Dan Wesson Guardian or CBOB/VBOB. |
People are getting fatter everyday. 10mm isn't just for bears anymore. |
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Nathan
Big Sky Guy
USA
21551 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 10:58:40
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are you actually looking for a commander 1911, or just a 4" 1911 style pistol? there are many distinct differences that are often over-looked. the commander is 4.25" long and utilizes the bushing barrel setup that is identical to the 1911. 4" 1911 style pistols use a bushingless bull barrel and can be a real bitch to field strip without special tools that come with the gun.
the absolute finest production commanders available today in my opinion are the dan wesson commanders. you might find a "better" custom job, but as production pistols go youll find nothing any finer. in 4" 1911 style pistols i think the springfield loaded champion is my favorite.
...ive actually got a stainless colt combat commander xse that i would sell for $850 + shipping. |
Nathan In Montana, carrying a Gen4 Glock 19 loaded with Federal 147 grain +P JHPs carried in a Galco King Tuk thats worn on a Wilderness Instructor's belt.
NRA Certified Instructor, Rifle, Shotgun and Pistol
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deadguy
I see dead people
7298 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 12:03:13
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...ive actually got a stainless colt combat commander xse that i would sell for $850 + shipping.
i was wondering just last night if you had sold that thing yet |
People are getting fatter everyday. 10mm isn't just for bears anymore. |
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Nathan
Big Sky Guy
USA
21551 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 12:05:04
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| nah, i dont have it listed anywhere and im not trying hard to sell it...but $850 would take it. |
Nathan In Montana, carrying a Gen4 Glock 19 loaded with Federal 147 grain +P JHPs carried in a Galco King Tuk thats worn on a Wilderness Instructor's belt.
NRA Certified Instructor, Rifle, Shotgun and Pistol
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SKIandSKY
Average Member
USA
831 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 12:59:06
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| I know very little about 1911's. That said, I like the Scandium framed S&W 1911E. At 29 ouces, it should be easier to carry all day. |
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1813Anschutz
Advanced Member
USA
2292 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 13:17:19
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It is an OUTSTANDING choice...I had one that was stolen from me 2 years ago and I carried it daily. It feed everything I could put into it and ran flawlessly.
Be not afraid of this great gun!!
Randy |
"The more I shoot,the LUCKIER I seem to get!" |
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badphydeaux
Average Member
USA
542 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 17:30:11
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I'd put in a vote for a Dan Wesson CCO (http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/dan-wesson-cco-bobtail/). One of the smoothest triggers I've ever felt on a 1911, awesome wood grips, and from-the-factory dual colored Tritium night sights for faster target acquisition (green front, orange back). The back of the frame has a slight slight bob to prevent snagging clothing, and the front strap "chain link" pattern is super grippy but not "directional" like standard LPI checkering. It's got an aluminum frame and a steel slide and is a joy to carry compared to something entirely steel (comes in at 34.6 oz [982g] loaded with 7+1). I swapped out the wood grips (I'm too harsh on wood) for a set of Larry Davidson black Horned Lizard grips and a Wilson Combat high-ride ambi safety that I slimmed and shortened. When I bought it for $1095, it was 2 years old but new in box. They have since changed the slide release and the barrel bushings for the newer ones.
I used to have a SIG C3 (SIG's 4.25" commander) but the instant I put the CCO in my hand I couldn't sell my C3 fast enough. The other nice feature on the Dan Wesson CCO is that it has a ramped barrel. One of the problems that I had with the SIG C3 is that it had a traditional 1911 barrel and any JHPs that weren't absolutely closed (really small hollow point opening like Golden Sabres) would catch on the lower feed lip of the barrel when the bullet made the transition from the mag to frame feed ramp to barrel feed ramp. The SIG even went back to SIG for a fluff and buff and it still would not feed about half of the JHP ammo I have. It noticeably choked on Winchester Ranger T +P 230gr JHPs, which are essentially the same thing as the commercial PDX1 ammo. Another problem with the SIG is that it has squared off shoulders on the top of the slide and few holsters would fit it. The Dan Wesson CCO is perfectly mil-spec.
As I'll second to Nate, the Dan Wesson CCO is the best "non-custom" 1911 commander available. It's an absolute joy to carry and shoot.
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rambosky
New Member
USA
84 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2012 : 15:11:25
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Love my little pony. Everything you need and nothing you don't!
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zonker1986
Advanced Member
USA
8191 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2012 : 21:31:52
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second the Commanders from Springfield Armory. Lightweight Champion Operator with Trijicons. Haven't found one I like better than this one.
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SKIandSKY
Average Member
USA
831 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2012 : 01:41:07
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Some sharp-looking pieces!
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gunslinger
Advanced Member
USA
2072 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2012 : 11:29:29
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| SIG Carry or Springer Champion Loaded are as good as they get. The Smith 1911E isn't far behind, talking out of the box. For 2 to 3 1/2 times the price, the Nighthawk Talon II would be my choice. And a recent Colt is a fine piece, as well. |
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gunslinger
Advanced Member
USA
2072 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2012 : 11:34:00
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Originally posted by badphydeaux
I'd put in a vote for a Dan Wesson CCO (http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/dan-wesson-cco-bobtail/). One of the smoothest triggers I've ever felt on a 1911, awesome wood grips, and from-the-factory dual colored Tritium night sights for faster target acquisition (green front, orange back). The back of the frame has a slight slight bob to prevent snagging clothing, and the front strap "chain link" pattern is super grippy but not "directional" like standard LPI checkering. It's got an aluminum frame and a steel slide and is a joy to carry compared to something entirely steel (comes in at 34.6 oz [982g] loaded with 7+1). I swapped out the wood grips (I'm too harsh on wood) for a set of Larry Davidson black Horned Lizard grips and a Wilson Combat high-ride ambi safety that I slimmed and shortened. When I bought it for $1095, it was 2 years old but new in box. They have since changed the slide release and the barrel bushings for the newer ones.
I used to have a SIG C3 (SIG's 4.25" commander) but the instant I put the CCO in my hand I couldn't sell my C3 fast enough. The other nice feature on the Dan Wesson CCO is that it has a ramped barrel. One of the problems that I had with the SIG C3 is that it had a traditional 1911 barrel and any JHPs that weren't absolutely closed (really small hollow point opening like Golden Sabres) would catch on the lower feed lip of the barrel when the bullet made the transition from the mag to frame feed ramp to barrel feed ramp. The SIG even went back to SIG for a fluff and buff and it still would not feed about half of the JHP ammo I have. It noticeably choked on Winchester Ranger T +P 230gr JHPs, which are essentially the same thing as the commercial PDX1 ammo. Another problem with the SIG is that it has squared off shoulders on the top of the slide and few holsters would fit it. The Dan Wesson CCO is perfectly mil-spec.
As I'll second to Nate, the Dan Wesson CCO is the best "non-custom" 1911 commander available. It's an absolute joy to carry and shoot.
Have never had a feed problem with my C3 on any type of ammo. Prefer the HST +Ps which feed just like a fmj. Wesson CCO is a great gun, but you're talking significantly higher $$. My C3 fits fine in a Fobus, Blade-tech or Tagua--which is a fine leather holster for the money. The rail SIGs are another story. Only Blade-tech made one that fit perfectly. |
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samuelrp
Senior Member
USA
1891 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2012 : 14:07:08
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| Hey don't be showing off......that you don't have the idiot scratch . |
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badphydeaux
Average Member
USA
542 Posts |
Posted - 07/11/2012 : 11:34:11
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Hey don't be showing off......that you don't have the idiot scratch .
Just wanted to be pointin' out I'm not an idiot! (Wow! Owns a 1911 and isn't an idiot OFWG- gasp!) |
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NRM
Starting Member
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Posted - 07/16/2012 : 16:10:37
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| if your looking to spend a 1000$ then Colt, Kimber, Sig, springfied, remington, s&w ....if your looking to spend 2,000$ les baer, ed brown 3g and up then dang you got cash |
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GlockASA
New Member
USA
72 Posts |
Posted - 07/16/2012 : 18:18:44
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Originally posted by Nathan
nah, i dont have it listed anywhere and im not trying hard to sell it...but $850 would take it.
How many rounds do you have through it? |
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Nathan
Big Sky Guy
USA
21551 Posts |
Posted - 07/16/2012 : 18:38:12
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| only a few hundred. ive taken it to the range only twice. |
Nathan In Montana, carrying a Gen4 Glock 19 loaded with Federal 147 grain +P JHPs carried in a Galco King Tuk thats worn on a Wilderness Instructor's belt.
NRA Certified Instructor, Rifle, Shotgun and Pistol
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modernswords
Junior Member
USA
428 Posts |
Posted - 07/16/2012 : 19:15:28
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I guess I would consider this pistol to be a "middle of the road" custom, but a great commander-sized 1911 pistol. I really like my Concept V11.
I have a stainless Colt CCC as well. I always preferred this size of 1911 pistol for carry. |
 
"...he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."
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badphydeaux
Average Member
USA
542 Posts |
Posted - 07/16/2012 : 22:12:36
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Originally posted by gunslinger
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Originally posted by badphydeaux
I'd put in a vote for a Dan Wesson CCO (http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/dan-wesson-cco-bobtail/). One of the smoothest triggers I've ever felt on a 1911, awesome wood grips, and from-the-factory dual colored Tritium night sights for faster target acquisition (green front, orange back). The back of the frame has a slight slight bob to prevent snagging clothing, and the front strap "chain link" pattern is super grippy but not "directional" like standard LPI checkering. It's got an aluminum frame and a steel slide and is a joy to carry compared to something entirely steel (comes in at 34.6 oz [982g] loaded with 7+1). I swapped out the wood grips (I'm too harsh on wood) for a set of Larry Davidson black Horned Lizard grips and a Wilson Combat high-ride ambi safety that I slimmed and shortened. When I bought it for $1095, it was 2 years old but new in box. They have since changed the slide release and the barrel bushings for the newer ones.
I used to have a SIG C3 (SIG's 4.25" commander) but the instant I put the CCO in my hand I couldn't sell my C3 fast enough. The other nice feature on the Dan Wesson CCO is that it has a ramped barrel. One of the problems that I had with the SIG C3 is that it had a traditional 1911 barrel and any JHPs that weren't absolutely closed (really small hollow point opening like Golden Sabres) would catch on the lower feed lip of the barrel when the bullet made the transition from the mag to frame feed ramp to barrel feed ramp. The SIG even went back to SIG for a fluff and buff and it still would not feed about half of the JHP ammo I have. It noticeably choked on Winchester Ranger T +P 230gr JHPs, which are essentially the same thing as the commercial PDX1 ammo. Another problem with the SIG is that it has squared off shoulders on the top of the slide and few holsters would fit it. The Dan Wesson CCO is perfectly mil-spec.
As I'll second to Nate, the Dan Wesson CCO is the best "non-custom" 1911 commander available. It's an absolute joy to carry and shoot.
Have never had a feed problem with my C3 on any type of ammo. Prefer the HST +Ps which feed just like a fmj. Wesson CCO is a great gun, but you're talking significantly higher $$. My C3 fits fine in a Fobus, Blade-tech or Tagua--which is a fine leather holster for the money. The rail SIGs are another story. Only Blade-tech made one that fit perfectly.
Never was that lucky with my C3. It was the worst Jammomatic (TM) I've ever owned. Like I mentioned, it went back to Sig and even their fluff & buff didn't fix it. I could not load any JHP except Golden Sabres in it and even got hangups on FMJs as well. I figured that it just needed break-in and ran a very painful 400 rounds thru it- no change, just a lot of empty brass. As to price, I purchased the C3 for $956.57 (July 2010), a whopping $138.43 less than the Dan Wesson. In my mind, the Dan Wesson was money very well spent. |
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SKIandSKY
Average Member
USA
831 Posts |
Posted - 07/17/2012 : 22:41:44
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Zonker!
It has a light rail.........me likey.
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gunslinger
Advanced Member
USA
2072 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2012 : 09:46:31
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Have never had a feed problem with my C3 on any type of ammo. Prefer the HST +Ps which feed just like a fmj. Wesson CCO is a great gun, but you're talking significantly higher $$. My C3 fits fine in a Fobus, Blade-tech or Tagua--which is a fine leather holster for the money. The rail SIGs are another story. Only Blade-tech made one that fit perfectly.
[/quote]Never was that lucky with my C3. It was the worst Jammomatic (TM) I've ever owned. Like I mentioned, it went back to Sig and even their fluff & buff didn't fix it. I could not load any JHP except Golden Sabres in it and even got hangups on FMJs as well. I figured that it just needed break-in and ran a very painful 400 rounds thru it- no change, just a lot of empty brass. As to price, I purchased the C3 for $956.57 (July 2010), a whopping $138.43 less than the Dan Wesson. In my mind, the Dan Wesson was money very well spent.
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You must have gotten a bad one. As to price, that was great for the DW. I was thinking $1400 range. |
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Who makes good 1911 Commanders?
