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Nathan
Big Sky Guy

USA
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Posted - 07/29/2007 :  17:10:05  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
from http://www.tsa.gov./travelers/airtravel/assistant/editorial_1666.shtm

You may only transport firearms, ammunition and firearm parts in your checked baggage. Firearms, ammunition and firearm parts are prohibited from carry-on baggage.

There are certain limited exceptions for law enforcement officers who may fly armed by meeting the requirements of Title 49 CFR § 1544.219. Law enforcement officers should read our policies on traveling with guns.

The key regulatory requirements to transporting firearms, firearm parts or ammunition in checked baggage are:

You must declare all firearms to the airline during the ticket counter check-in process.
The firearm must be unloaded.
The firearm must be in a hard-sided container.
The container must be locked.
We recommend that you provide the key or combination to the security officer if he or she needs to open the container. You should remain present during screening to take the key back after the container is cleared. If you are not present and the security officer must open the container, we or the airline will make a reasonable attempt to contact you. If we can’t contact you, the container will not be placed on the plane. Federal regulations prohibit unlocked gun cases (or cases with broken locks) on aircraft.
You must securely pack any ammunition in fiber (such as cardboard), wood or metal boxes or other packaging that is specifically designed to carry small amounts of ammunition.
You can’t use firearm magazines/clips for packing ammunition unless they completely and securely enclose the ammunition (e.g., by securely covering the exposed portions of the magazine or by securely placing the magazine in a pouch, holder, holster or lanyard).
You may carry the ammunition in the same hard-sided case as the firearm, as long as you pack it as described above.
You can’t bring black powder or percussion caps used with black-powder type firearms in either your carry-on or checked baggage.
We and other authorities strictly enforce these regulations. Violations can result in criminal prosecution and civil penalties of up to $10,000 per violation.

Airlines may have their own additional requirements on the carriage of firearms and the amount of ammunition that you may have in your checked baggage. Therefore, travelers should also contact the airline regarding its firearm and ammunition carriage policies.

Also, please note that many other countries have different laws that address transportation and possession of firearms. If you are traveling internationally, please check with the authorities at your destination about their requirements.

Nathan In Montana, carrying a Gen4 Glock 19 loaded with Federal 147 grain +P JHPs carried in a Galco King Tuk thats worn on a Wilderness Instructor's belt.

NRA Certified Instructor, Rifle, Shotgun and Pistol

Bruce
Senior Member

USA
1481 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2007 :  17:23:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Boy .... I know many of you guys have checked guns while flying - but something in me tells me to never trust an airline with important baggage. If it doesn't wind up in Pongo-Pongo - some dickweed baggage handler takes home a new gun today. I don't trust any of these cretins:( Occupational hazard, I guess.
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Nathan
Big Sky Guy

USA
21540 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2007 :  17:43:30  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i agree.....but id rather take my chances of my gun making it than take my chances on walking around unarmed.

Nathan In Montana, carrying a Gen4 Glock 19 loaded with Federal 147 grain +P JHPs carried in a Galco King Tuk thats worn on a Wilderness Instructor's belt.

NRA Certified Instructor, Rifle, Shotgun and Pistol
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Craig
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USA
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Posted - 07/29/2007 :  20:09:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have been searching the internet for a link to share but can't find it, so I'll paraphrase.

I was reading about lost & stolen luggage experiences with the airlines and found some tips that have proven most effective. In regards to handguns, I can recall the following:

* Use a very brightly colored gun case. A cheap plastic (Locking) case painted with day-glow safety orange is less likely to be stolen than anything dark in color.

* Place the pistol case inside checked baggage. Both the pistol case and checked baggage will be marked or labeled by the airline as containing a firearm. With the pistol case inside a large securely locked suitcase it is even more difficult to steal or be damaged.

* Mark the suitcase with bright colors like painting it with polka dots, tying dozens of short streamers onto several locations, or wrapping silver duck tape tightly around the suitcase AFTER it is sealed at check-in.

* Wait until the last minute to check the firearm because this leaves less time for it to be lost or stolen.

There was more but I don't remember it all.

U.S. Armed Forces Veteran & NRA Endowment Member ... Will Travel!

Why do I fear my government? I am a proud Veteran. I am honest in my tax return. I do not participate in criminal/illegal activities. I have been scared of the unknown and startled by surprise, but I have never before experienced fear. I have faced overwhelming odds in which failure would have cost my life; however, I am still here because I had no fear. I have no fear of anything that bleeds. Why do I fear my government?
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sarge197
Advanced Member

USA
4352 Posts

Posted - 07/30/2007 :  00:58:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I recently traveled from So. Cal. to Sacramento, CA on Southwest Airlines. I realize this is a very short in-state flight, so please take these comments in context.

Expecting to get a bunch of guff for wanting to check a firearm, we arrived two hours early. I was so concerned about employee theft, I went looking for a hard-side suitcase to protect my Glock 26 and related parphernalia. I couldn't find a hard-side case for less than $150.00 and that seemed a little silly for a 1 hour flight. So, I trusted to faith.

I placed my 26, three loaded mags for a Model 19 (15 rounds each) and my Cold Steel 5" Voyager folding tanto into a medium sized Doskocil pistol case. I secured it with a quality pad lock and hung the key on a chain around my neck. I placed the locked case into my soft-sided overnight bag and checked in at the counter.

I did have to fill out a small form that stated the weapon was unloaded and locked in a hard-side case. The form I filled out was placed inside my bag and nothing other than the normal flight tag was placed on the outside of the bag. I was directed to take my bag to the TSA screeners and let them know about the gun.

I did, they screened it wile I watched and placed it onto the conveyer system. This whole process took about 6 minutes start to finish. We waited four $*&%# hours for our flight, then spent 55 minutes in a plane that smelled like the inside of an outhouse, but we arrived safely.

I walked directly to the luggage carousel and watched as my bag emerged, still intact and still containing two of my closest friends. If I do anymore air travel in the near future, I will buy a hard-sided suitcase for piece of mind. Maybe I got lucky, but this was only ten days ago so it's pretty fresh information.

Sarge197

NRA Life Member
California Rifle & Pistol Association Annual Member

"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." Thomas Jefferson
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Will
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206 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2007 :  07:53:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A buddy of mine recently got a CHL (TX). He flew home for leave and had about the same to say as Sarge. However - on the return flight he got bumped up or his baggage got bumped back and he ended up having to pick up his bag, which contained his XD .45, the next day. He said the airports/employees were not difficult to deal with at all.

"A free people ought to be armed." (Jan 14 1790, Boston Independent Chronicle.)
-George Washington
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gearhead65
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USA
577 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2007 :  11:47:21  Show Profile  Send gearhead65 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
good info, thanks guys

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