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Rocketman
New Member

Japan
69 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2009 :  08:37:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I do find myself using off-body frequently because;

- while I'm in the US I am usually visiting my dad and his wife who is a frothing-at-the-mouth anti-gunner. I feel honor bound to not bring guns into their house so I tend to keep mine in the car while visiting. We all usually end up getting into one car to go out so that makes it difficult to do much more than "just grab my bag" and go.

- I have never in my life left a bag, book, or any other item I was carrying anywhere. I can't imagine leaving something which has my gun in it. Maybe this is because I started out my adulthood in the Marine Infantry at age 17. As a grunt you are always carrying everything you need on your body or gear somewhere and you have to be ready to get anything out, day or night, in the rain or the surf, all the time. I just got accustomed to living like that for years so it is still instinctual for me to know where all my gear is.

I have a few Maxpedition products and a couple Safepackers. Safepackers have been declareed to be "holsters" by the NM Att'y General so they are considered open carry there. Now that I have found a way to get my CCW through a FL non-resident permit I will be legal to carry concealed as soon as the paperwork is done.
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Vegas Rick
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USA
10 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2009 :  16:16:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I carry my G36 in a vest along with the rest of my junk (wallet, reading glasses, cellphone, etc.). I'm waistline-challenged and don't do belts.

Unlikely to be separated from it. No worries about leaving a pocket planner or shoulder bag somewhere. The BGs can't easily grab it off your body.

Las Vegas gets hot, so I have a vest that is mostly open mesh over a Tshirt. Inside pocket for a holstered carry. There are lots of vest options: fishing vests, shooting vests, travel vests. Google away.

BTW, you can attach holsters inside the pocket using plastic ties through holes you punch. I use the cheap fabric type, easy to pin it at the angle comfortable for me.
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Dundertaker
Junior Member

USA
124 Posts

Posted - 12/13/2009 :  19:47:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
+1 on safe packer.....I rarely have it "off body" it's either on my belt or in my hand. I don't have a strap for "Murse" carry, but it's my most versitile holster. It doesn't scream "GUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!" and I've carried mine under many noses. I agree with the original statement that a lost or left gun is my WORST NIGHTMARE! If you do carry off body or in a small case...keep the laying it down in a booth, etc...to a minimum. I don't think I've done that once! My brother is a LEO and uses a MAX-p style MURSE but it's large enough that you shouldn't forget it. Your gun is your responsibility!

Be Safe!!!

Dundertaker

If Guns kill people then Spoons made Rosie O'Donnell FAT!

"When you read in the newspaper that the government has taken Walter Williams' guns, then you will know that Walter Williams is dead."
Dr. Walter Williams , George Mason University Economics Dept

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jeffwrv23
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52 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2010 :  22:02:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
here is a suggestion. i have a jansport backpack that i fastend a basic holster nothing fance to the inside of, i found that this is an easy way to carry a larger weapon (glock 17) this is a fesable option for the guys or girls who would not look out of place with a backpack on (college students like myself) however i hear you out there screaming, yes the obvious trade off is it would be difficult to get at if you needed it immediatly, but at least you have it on you. works in high humidity temperature areas.

"From now on, you'll carry the Walther." ("M" in Doctor No)
Walther PPS

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Tequila
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1363 Posts

Posted - 01/13/2010 :  19:32:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For offbody carry, I sometimes use a fannypack when in PT gear or in property outside the house doing some things. I also occasionally use a concealed carry leather vest from Coronado Leather. Perhaps, I also use a Planner Holster for concealed carry as a military recruiter when driving to and from work in my personal vehicle and also carry in my left hand with a retention strap if I make rare stops to certain places such as a diner or gas station when I get off of work. Again, I don't carry it in the recruiting office, military base, other prohibited places, or govt. vehicle and leave it my personal vehicle also locked up in a Planner holster and locked in the trunk of my personal vehicle.
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Argentinesteel
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USA
1 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2010 :  00:09:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've used a variety of methods.
I wear a vest when the weather's right, if it's too hot for pants and a belt it will be in the vest or a fanny pack. A vest over a shirt can be right for a dressier look as well.

For hiking I'll use the Maxpedition fatboy. Plenty of room for a drink, lunch and a 1st aid kit along with the hidden holster. Keeps the gun away from the sweaty body some what.

Not all who wander are lost
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Ram Rod
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USA
32 Posts

Posted - 01/24/2010 :  17:23:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello BikerRN! Yeah, I'm slow maybe, but just found this forum. expanding my horizons I'm guessing. Good to see you.
Off body carry? Too risky IMO. Normally I'm one to say options are always good. But in the case of off body carry.........I personally don't think it's a good option.

Ram Rod.......sans remords
Live, eat, breathe, sleep Glock
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neumannator
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USA
10 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2010 :  23:49:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
if it takes about a month to get my CCW how to i get to the range with my gun on my bike? can i put my gun case in a backpack? something about that sounds like trouble
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kitop310
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USA
139 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2010 :  11:40:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by neumannator

if it takes about a month to get my CCW how to i get to the range with my gun on my bike? can i put my gun case in a backpack? something about that sounds like trouble



I'm not a lawyer and this is not legal advice, so check your local laws first. That said, if the weapon is unloaded and in a locked carry case in your backpack, I don't foresee any problems. But again, laws can vary greatly from state to state and county to county, so please CHECK THOSE LOCAL LAWS FIRST! We're all here to help, but in the end, what you choose to do is your responsability.

I don't think Nathan would approve if we just said "Sure, go ahead." So please heed the above-given advice.

Jonesy
Active Duty - United States Air Force
NRA Life Member

Current:
Kel-Tec PF9

Someday (this is gonna get expensive):
Wather PPS
Glock 26/27/36
Kahr PM9
Revolver of unknown make or model
AR15
Shotgun of unknown make or model



"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

"Look not mournfully into the past, it comes not back again. Go forward and face the future with a sound mind and a manly heart."


"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings that thinks nothing is worth war is much worse. A man for which he has nothing to fight, nothing he cares about more than his own personal safety is a miserable creature indeed who has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the actions of greater men than himself."

"Experience is a jewel, and it had need be so, for it is often purchased at an infinite rate."
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neumannator
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USA
10 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2010 :  15:44:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok they said it would be fine they way you put it
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kitop310
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USA
139 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2010 :  17:02:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by neumannator

Ok they said it would be fine they way you put it



Good. Seems like your backpack would, in your case, be just like the trunk of a car. (For legal purposes in your area anyway.)

Jonesy
Active Duty - United States Air Force
NRA Life Member

Current:
Kel-Tec PF9

Someday (this is gonna get expensive):
Wather PPS
Glock 26/27/36
Kahr PM9
Revolver of unknown make or model
AR15
Shotgun of unknown make or model



"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

"Look not mournfully into the past, it comes not back again. Go forward and face the future with a sound mind and a manly heart."


"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings that thinks nothing is worth war is much worse. A man for which he has nothing to fight, nothing he cares about more than his own personal safety is a miserable creature indeed who has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the actions of greater men than himself."

"Experience is a jewel, and it had need be so, for it is often purchased at an infinite rate."
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kitop310
Junior Member

USA
139 Posts

Posted - 02/02/2010 :  12:59:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kitop310

quote:
Originally posted by neumannator

if it takes about a month to get my CCW how to i get to the range with my gun on my bike? can i put my gun case in a backpack? something about that sounds like trouble



I'm not a lawyer and this is not legal advice, so check your local laws first. That said, if the weapon is unloaded and in a locked carry case in your backpack, I don't foresee any problems. But again, laws can vary greatly from state to state and county to county, so please CHECK THOSE LOCAL LAWS FIRST! We're all here to help, but in the end, what you choose to do is your responsability.

I don't think Nathan would approve if we just said "Sure, go ahead." So please heed the above-given advice.



Perhaps better served as a new thread? Just a thought...

Jonesy
Active Duty - United States Air Force
NRA Life Member

Current:
Kel-Tec PF9

Someday (this is gonna get expensive):
Wather PPS
Glock 26/27/36
Kahr PM9
Revolver of unknown make or model
AR15
Shotgun of unknown make or model



"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

"Look not mournfully into the past, it comes not back again. Go forward and face the future with a sound mind and a manly heart."


"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings that thinks nothing is worth war is much worse. A man for which he has nothing to fight, nothing he cares about more than his own personal safety is a miserable creature indeed who has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the actions of greater men than himself."

"Experience is a jewel, and it had need be so, for it is often purchased at an infinite rate."
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Ram Rod
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USA
32 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2010 :  02:26:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The term 'off body carry' pretty much entails carrying a loaded weapon somewhere else besides 'on' you. For all intents and purposes, this does not include cased and unloaded weapons taken to and from the range. We are talking about carry here....concealed or open, and that means a loaded weapon carried for the purposes of self defense. In my own opinion, the concept of 'off body carry' shouldn't really exist for more reasons than one, and it seems to me to be a contradiction in terms (you can talk about a melted ice cube, or you could talk about water). It's just overwhelmingly obvious to me that other folks have considered this method as an option for their own reasons, and hence the subject is listed in this forum for those reasons whether or not I agree with them. If you are considering taking a loaded weapon with you (notice I can't say carrying if it's not 'on' you), just consider your other options carefully. If you are taking a loaded weapon with you in a purse or something, you are actually carrying the purse or other item and not a loaded weapon....your loaded weapon is effectively 'removed from you' or in a remote location. Maybe I'm taking this way too seriously. Maybe it should be taken seriously. After all, it's your life that depends on your choices here. Why did you get a permit to carry a loaded weapon in the first place? Last year there were two local instances of a child shooting themselves with mom's or grandma's gun placed in the purse. Just let me know when I've made my point.

Ram Rod.......sans remords
Live, eat, breathe, sleep Glock
Glock Certified Armorer
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