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DIAMOND
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Posted - 06/28/2010 :  16:55:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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14, 13, 12,........

I am the reason he never reached 11 in his countdown.

My wife then runs into my arms and I hug her and my child.

I then reach for my phone and dial 911 to have the police come and ask for an ambulance as a man has been shot. I give my description to them so that the cops know who the good guy is.

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Radioflyer
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USA
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Posted - 06/28/2010 :  20:32:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by DIAMOND

quote:
14, 13, 12,........

I am the reason he never reached 11 in his countdown.

My wife then runs into my arms and I hug her and my child.

I then reach for my phone and dial 911 to have the police come and ask for an ambulance as a man has been shot. I give my description to them so that the cops know who the good guy is.



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It is the responsibility of the individual NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT to protect and defend their family, themselves and their property.
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Elm Creek Smith
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Posted - 06/28/2010 :  20:49:20  Show Profile  Visit Elm Creek Smith's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If the guy grabbed my wife, he'd have more problems than me and my carry gun. The police would probably have to take him to the hospital to have his gun removed from his fifth point of contact.

I'd shoot him just to put him out of his misery.

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Eek-a-Gun
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Posted - 07/03/2010 :  08:28:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm with the others about the timing of the draw. I'd either wait to draw, or draw and immediately fire (perhaps when he shot the employee).

But to do with your scenario exactly:

First, I wouldn't give up my weapon.

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...the hammer is down on his revolver...


Secondly, this isn't the important factor. Instead, is his finger on the trigger? Because if it is, and you shoot, and do not score an immediate direct hit on his primitive central nervous system, then you just killed your wife by proxy.

"The fact that slaughter is a horrifying spectacle must make us take war more seriously, but not provide an excuse for gradually blunting our swords in the name of humanity. Sooner or later someone will come along with a sharp sword and hack off our arms." -Karl von Clausewitz
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lilslinger
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USA
33 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2010 :  01:05:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Given the scenerio you have layed out, the greatest blunder of the situation, was drawing late, on a hostage situation.
...and from "concealed" position. In the hypothetical situation, "you started off," by acting like a police officer, breaking rule #1? of c.c., wife or not? I can not get past that. Blowing the "concealed gun advantage," has made a very bad situation, so much worse, that the end scenerio, is left to bad odds, chance and/or luck to solve. (Giving your gun up, would be the next very bad choice.) and...after that? Everything...is bad in the scenerio,(only) because of the first "no longer concealed" poor decision. You say hypothetically, the BG had already sent up a red flag with you, more or less, then i must believe you would "not" draw late from the concealed position, on a hostage situation.
Excuse me, if this sounds harsh, Hypothetically...i'm just rippin' on that.
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btfla
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Posted - 07/29/2010 :  22:37:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
nope i would not give up the gun.

please exquse my spelling and typeing iam dyslexic
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Barksdale123
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Posted - 07/30/2010 :  03:41:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by KeysGuy

I don't think I would have been as quick to draw (disclose the fact I was armed), but this is your scenario. Given the situation had progressed to the point you stated, including one person already shot I would have asked for Devine assistance and taken the shot. If I blew the shot, I have no idea how I could ever explain to my kids why I shot their mother or let the BG shot their mother. It certainly would make future Mother's Days suck.



I believe this is called a tactical advantage. One of the drawbacks of open carry is tha tthis is lost. Its your scenario, to have the forum member do something ill advised. Honestly, not sure what I would do, I doubt my profecientcy to make the 1/2 head shot at 12 yards. The should shot could possibly start a blood bath. I don't want this to go into a caliber war, but I think a single should shot with a 380 or 9MM (which I carry) might not incapacitate the guy to the point that he is harmless.
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Quickdraw
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USA
23 Posts

Posted - 07/30/2010 :  08:42:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My wife and daughter take Krav Maga so with me its different. As soon as she is free she will either shoot him or I will.
Either way he is going to get shot, lol

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