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rngerdv
Average Member
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 Posted - 01/01/2008 : 20:54:59
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My breakdown tool is attached to my hand. I never have a problem with the sear disconnect.
The compact models dont have them? |
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monky
Junior Member
USA
272 Posts |
Posted - 01/01/2008 : 21:04:20
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I just got the MP9c. I like it. I was a bit hesitant to get a 9mm as I'm a fan of the .40 and .45... really like the .40. However, last year I broke my hand and it was rather 'nasty' as my hand dr said.
I fired a friends compact Glock .40, and I could NOT control my shots with the recoil and the lack of strength in my hand. It will eventually get to 100% but for now i'm stuck doing PT once a week and exercising it nightly (get your minds out of the gutter).
I got the compact since I am having a hell of a time concealing my xd, hopefully my sparks holster will solve that problem more (if it ever gets here). So far after 200 rounds of Fed HST 147g, I like it. My groups are not nearly as tight as I'd like them to be. I keep going between the large and medium backstraps. The medium is more comfortable to hold, but the large I seem to shoot better with as i can grip the pistol tighter (and the recoil seems to go away from the bad part of my hand and into the meaty part). It's just not comfortable to hold with the large. I have issues I know.
On a side note has anyone used burwell to have a trigger job? Good? Bad?
Love the pistol so far.. hate my hand. |
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rngerdv
Average Member
515 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2008 : 11:11:19
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| Mr Burwell does awesome work. I however, wont have any custom trigger work done on a carry weapon. |
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Ghugly
Starting Member
USA
49 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2008 : 15:05:14
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| This is an interesting thread. I have a couple of questions. First, in what way is the S&W M&P superior to the 1911? I have and occasionally carry a 1911 and, for an auto with it's power, I haven't found anything I can shoot as well (I say "with it's power," because I have an EG Makarov that I can really hit with). My second question is more of a gripe than a question. Why is it that you guys get the cool looking CCW permits? In California, I had to jump through all kinds of hoops and all I got was a flimsy, cheap looking scrap of paper with my thumb print on it. |
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Nathan
Big Sky Guy
USA
15814 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2008 : 20:13:18
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| montana CWPs are literally printed on a desktop printer. i cut mine out and laminated it at office depot. |
 
"In the foolishness of my heart, I thought that the truth would be a defense." - Harold Fish |
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bwatkins1223
Advanced Member
USA
2600 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2008 : 00:27:37
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| Hello, I am very new to this forum. This is the first forum I have participated in. I recently purchased a M&P .40 for my self. I took it with me on a camping trip in Kentucky. I was very impressed. My friend has the Sigma series 9mm. After putting 250 rounds through the M&P in about half an hour the only problem I had was the slide failed to lock back after the mag was empty. I used 200 remington 180gr. I had 50 Blazer 165gr. I love the trigger reset as compared to the Sigma series. I looked at several different guns before I bought this one. I am glad I chose the M&P. I think I paid a bit much for mine $600, which was just the gun and a Fobus paddle holster, what do you think? I forgot I did get the $50 rebate and 2 free magazines. Can anybody tell me of some good concealment holsters? |
Eagle Scout November, 16th 2006
Carry guns:
Springfield MilSpec .45ACP
Glock 19
KelTec PF9
When seconds count, the police are only minutes away |
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Nathan
Big Sky Guy
USA
15814 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2008 : 21:56:31
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| hello, welcome to the forum. my m&p .40 is awesome. what style holster (IWB/OWB/etc) do you prefer? |
"In the foolishness of my heart, I thought that the truth would be a defense." - Harold Fish |
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bwatkins1223
Advanced Member
USA
2600 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2008 : 22:47:06
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| I have the Fobus paddle holster which is a great holster but it does not hide the gun at all and it can get in the way. I like IWB holsters as long as they don't have to be put right on the hip. I would like to find one that goes in the middle of the back, IWB or OWB would not matter, to me, for the MOB holster. I have not been able to find one like this. Maybe I'm not looking in the right places. Any ideas? Thanks. |
Eagle Scout November, 16th 2006
Carry guns:
Springfield MilSpec .45ACP
Glock 19
KelTec PF9
When seconds count, the police are only minutes away |
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iceman
Average Member
563 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2008 : 23:55:47
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Nathan, my department is considering a switch to the M&P 40 after over fifteen years with the Glock 22. I happened to be one of the grunts tasked with testing the M&P 40. I'm conservative when it comes to defensive weapons. New guns/ammo really have to sell me. I first shot 200 rounds and was told I could shoot more if I wanted after finishing the list of drills provided to me. So I shot another 800 rounds in one day, department cost of course. I tried to make the gun fail. It did not. Not a hiccup. I too found the accuracy to be defense worthy.
After finishing the range day one of range guys told me that particular S&W had 5000 rounds through it with no cleaning. 6000 rounds, no cleaning and no issues with reliability, that's impressive to me.
Have you gotten the .357 Sig barrel for you Smith yet? I like that round even better than the 40 as well. |
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Nathan
Big Sky Guy
USA
15814 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2008 : 16:34:55
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| are your current g22s third generation? are they problematic or just worn out? if worn out and have served well, why not just stay with the g22 (get new ones)? i would say the same thing (stay with what you know) had you told me they were currently carrying m&p's and were thinking of switching to g22s. its a tough choice for sure. s&w really did their homework with the m&p and glock...well...that design is certainly proven if nothing else. i have, carry, shoot, and very much enjoy both. would be a tough choice. |
"In the foolishness of my heart, I thought that the truth would be a defense." - Harold Fish |
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BlackBirdCD
Junior Member
USA
103 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2008 : 16:42:43
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Has anyone experienced a problem with magazines dropping out of the M&P? That seems to be the one common complaint on the M&P Forum (mostly with the Compact Models).
From what I can see this was a problem with earlier models - S&W may have tweaked the manufacturing a bit.
Regardless, I'm heading over to my dealer tomorrow to pick up an M&P Compact 9mm. My long deliberation over a carry piece is over. |
There's a big difference between free speech and cheap talk... |
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Nathan
Big Sky Guy
USA
15814 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2008 : 20:09:01
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| i dont think you can go wrong with an m&p. there were some initial issues with magazine drops on the first production runs but i havent heard about any issues since. |
"In the foolishness of my heart, I thought that the truth would be a defense." - Harold Fish |
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iceman
Average Member
563 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2008 : 22:53:30
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Nathan, I can only guess on some of your questions regarding switching from the Glock 22 to S&W M&P 40. First let me say Glocks are great guns. They have served my department very well. At the time of implementing the Glocks we issued S&W Model 10's. Going from the double action revolver to the Glock Safe Action was pretty natural.
Yes, our 22's are Generation 1 Glocks. My department was the first major department in the U.S. to carry the Glock 40's. As you can imagine, after fifteen plus years in service they are showing some signs of wear. I also believe the powers that be want some of the newer technology. If what I heard is correct S&W has offered to take our Glocks on an even trade for a new S&W. Outfitting over 4000 officers with new guns is costly, subtracting the cost of the guns takes a little sting out of that bite.
I also believe that S&W has also included 1500 M&P15's in the deal taking some of our surplus long guns for the trade. |
Robert Avery
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rngerdv
Average Member
515 Posts |
Posted - 01/09/2008 : 12:29:08
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Robert,
That is a great deal for you department. Goes to show the commitment that S&W is going through to gain back the LEO base it enjoyed for many years.
I will echo the thoughts that after a few thousand rounds later I still think the M&P is a superb weapon. I have a MPM18XX series and have had zero issues and no mag dropouts of anykind.
If anything, with a full magazine, when inserted the slide releases on it's own to battery. Design? I don't know. Some think it's a drawback others like it. |
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tpapa
Starting Member
32 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2008 : 17:52:03
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Nathan,
When you got your M&P 40 did you consider the compact as well and choose one over the other? I'm thinking of getting an M&P 40 compact or a Glock 23 but I still have alot of homework to do.
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Nathan
Big Sky Guy
USA
15814 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2008 : 18:16:06
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| i never really considered the compact as an option, it just feels to big to me for a compact. i really do enjoy my m&p .40 and its probably the ultimate service weapon but i feel the g23 is a better concealed carry weapon just due to its size. |
"In the foolishness of my heart, I thought that the truth would be a defense." - Harold Fish |
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tpapa
Starting Member
32 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2008 : 18:22:19
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| Thanks Nathan - You're a good man! |
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OneGunCharlie
Average Member
690 Posts |
Posted - 05/28/2010 : 09:48:17
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This M&P is probably my answer to a .40 gun. I just can't find an all-steel package that looks satisfactory.
Last night I watched some Youtube videos of people shooting it. Even a few people who were obviously completely new to handguns exhibited almost no muzzle flip.
I watched people shooting .40 Browning Hi-Powers and I saw plenty of muzzle flip.
The low muzzle flip on the M&P is no surprise, just look at it, or hold it.
Due to its contours, the web of the shooting hand sits way up high, just below the slide/barrel. |
The male soul meets God in steel. |
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cmichael
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dsims
Senior Member
USA
1175 Posts |
Posted - 07/25/2010 : 13:38:20
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I've owned @ 5 S&W auto's over the years. The only one I could shoot well was the 1076, not sure if the others had accuracy issues or if it was just me. The M&P's are definately getting great reviews and catching on with competitive shooters.
I never liked my old Glocks, but now love my G23. I might have to give the M&P a try, if nothing else I think it's handsome as hell... |
It's better to have a gun on you and not need one, than to need one and not have one on you! |
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Johnde
New Member
USA
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Posted - 09/05/2010 : 06:53:30
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| I've had my M&P 40 for about three months. When I first fired it, the trigger was gritty, which affected the accuracy somewhat. Out of the box, the Smith shot about as well as the broken-in Glock. I traced the trigger problem to machine marks on the striker disconnect ramp. I planned on polishing this part of the trigger mechanism, however repeated dry firing seems to have done the trick. My last trip to the range produced better groupings than the Glock 23. I do most of my live fire practice at 20' using both full power and target loads. I have yet to carry this weapon, as the Glock is easier to conceal. The Smith eats everything I feed it, no FTF or FTE, and the chamber is fully supported. I purchased the version without the magazine or external safeties. |
Gun ban cities are murder capitals.
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