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Nighthawk Hi Power

Postby Nathan » Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:01 am

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Since I purchased my Dan Wesson Titan recently I have avoided GB and gun stores...but then I found this sexy beast on page #42 of the new G&A magazine. I'll wait to order since the magazine article will drive prices up for awhile.
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Re: Nighthawk Hi Power

Postby Hand and Steel » Sun Jun 05, 2016 7:45 pm

That is straight up gorgeous. Nice to see someone other than Novak doing something with the Hi Power design. Looks to me like that trigger doesn't even allow for a magazine disconnect, not a bad idea. Really liking the gold bead front sight. Looks like those grips are slimmer than usual, too - that thing must be a joy to have in the hand with that sort of grip profile.
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Re: Nighthawk Hi Power

Postby Nathan » Sun Jun 05, 2016 7:52 pm

There are lots of guns that I want but few that inspire genuine lust; I will have one of these. Absolutely gorgeous.
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Re: Nighthawk Hi Power

Postby cola490 » Mon Jun 06, 2016 4:07 am

Yes, this is a beautiful weapon. My question is, when you have something like this or any very expensive and gorgeous piece of equipment, do you carry it and risk holster wear, or is it taken to the range, cleaned and put in the safe?

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Re: Nighthawk Hi Power

Postby MisterB » Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:42 am

Pretty, but what's with the design of the beavertail? It's at an odd angle, as though somebody took vice grips and bent it awkwardly downward

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Re: Nighthawk Hi Power

Postby hkguy » Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:08 am

why not just order from nighthawk and wait the 12 months or so for it to be delivered. then you dont have to worry about supporting gb and the sellers on there since you dont really like that site anymore...
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Re: Nighthawk Hi Power

Postby Hand and Steel » Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:28 pm

MisterB wrote:Pretty, but what's with the design of the beavertail? It's at an odd angle, as though somebody took vice grips and bent it awkwardly downward


I can't answer with definitive knowledge on the subject but I can hazard a guess. It's likely that the beavertail was cut off of a 1911 grip safety or was custom made, and was then welded to the frame of the Hi-Power. The only Hi-Powers I know of which are manufactured stock with a beavertail are not made by FN - they are the Kareen Mk. II and Mk. III, and the Arcus 94 and 94C, all made by Arcus Co. of Bulgaria - however, those beavertails are downswept, and look nothing like the ones on the Nighthawk or other custom Hi-Powers, such as those produced by Robar, Wayne Novak, and Jim Garthwaite. Since the Nighthawk guns are cerakoted, it would be difficult to discern the presence of a weld if it was well-ground and polished before the finish was applied.

One of Wayne Novak's custom Hi-Powers with beavertail and an atrocious abbreviated hammer.
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Jim Garthwaite's custom beavertail for the Browning Hi-Power - a modification costing $250!
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Kareen Mk. II competition model, stock with beavertail, manufactured by Arcus of Bulgaria for KSN of Israel.
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Arcus 94, with beavertail and the Glock-like slide common to their earlier pistols.
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Re: Nighthawk Hi Power

Postby Nathan » Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:12 am

hkguy wrote:since you dont really like that site anymore...

...not what I said. I still use the site daily....it's like porn for real men. :)
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Re: Nighthawk Hi Power

Postby Nathan » Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:15 am

MisterB wrote:what's with the design of the beavertail?

I don't much care for the beavertail either. I wonder if one can be ordered without it? In my experience (and I could certainly be wrong about this) hammer bite on the BHP is really only a problem if you're generously chubby to the point that the fat in the web of your hand overlaps. I've never personally experienced any hammer bite.
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Re: Nighthawk Hi Power

Postby Hand and Steel » Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:47 pm

I recently ran across this while researching various rare versions of Hi Power. Apparently a now defunct company called Florida Arms manufactured Hi-Power frames in stainless steel and aluminum alloy, both of which were available with beavertails from the factory.

https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread ... 920&page=2

Halfway down the page are some photos.
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Re: Nighthawk Hi Power

Postby Nathan » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:08 am

I contacted Nighthawk a few months ago and asked them if I could order this gun without the rearward facing bayonet and was told not at this time but he acknowledged that they were aware of the reaction to it on most gun forums. If they would remove it or at least trim it down to a reasonable length they could sell these guns as fast as they could produce them.
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Re: Nighthawk Hi Power

Postby Hand and Steel » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:14 pm

Why the objection to the beavertail?
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Re: Nighthawk Hi Power

Postby Nathan » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:01 pm

Hand and Steel wrote:Why the objection to the beavertail?


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It's not the beavertail; its the excessive (and even offensive) size of the beavertail. I can foresee getting stabbed every time I lean into it even slightly. I call it the "rearward facing bayonet". Image
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Re: Nighthawk Hi Power

Postby Hand and Steel » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:23 pm

I doubt the beavertail would be much of an issue. It's only slightly longer than the tangs on the Arcus pistols I'm used to (they are otherwise ergonomically the same as the traditional Hi Power), and they've never given me any trouble, whether in hand or in holster. I wouldn't worry about it.
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